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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    Quote Originally Posted by ajbritton
    I don't think anyone has mentioned the change in default behaviour of the SIS service on Win2K since SP3. SIS no longer 'grovels' the entire volume where RIS is installed, only the RemoteInstall folder and contents. This means you don't necessarily need to dedicate a partition to RIS. Unless of course you want to.
    Didn't actually know that- thanks for the info!

    Paul

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    @Kingswood: I Will Post up the scripts used on Monday for you as I do not have them with me at the moment.

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    No problem- and thanks!

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    Quote Originally Posted by ICTNUT
    however came across a problem, we could not use riprep as we have a wide flavour of PC's
    I found similar things and odd behaviour even on the same type of hardware.

    If you want to see an example of these type of scripts look on the MSFN board at RogueSpears AutoRIS scripts. The auto ris script itself is great for preparing your source for driver integration like ICT Nut mentioned. I also have used Nlite to take out windows components that will never be used like obscure languages and keyboard mappings etc. I generally reduce the source by 150-200 meg. I also have most of the current updates integrated as well.

    I have started a RIS section on the WIKI but havent put any content on it yet so people go forth and add your 2p worth.
    I will start putting some stuff on myself today or tommorow as well.

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    I'd like to know more about these scripts and also how to do it in a bit more indepth information if thats possible.

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    I will be putting more stuff on the wiki later. But basically during the later stages of windows setup some registry entries are added that will be the tasks to perform on first logon. To perform this first logon you must also set some registry keys that allows autologon of an admin account.
    This list is then processed. In my list I have it install various programs like studio 2004 etc, run a registry optimiser and remove all the auto logon details. This is a good opportunity to use any autoit based installs you have.
    I will stick some detail in the wiki later.

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    @ChrisH: I did used to use nLite for cd based installs and it worked great but I have never been able to get to work properly with an RIS based image.

    Currently we have 12 apps being installed silently and automatically, including serial numbers and the like, for out ICT rooms.

    Average time for a complete install of an ICT room PC varies between 35mins to 60mins depending on the number of PC's also being imaged in the same room.

    Also a side note: By removing components using third party applications such as nLite you maybe, and probobly are, violating the EULA for Microsoft Windows.

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    I have had trouble in the past with Nlite but it works flawlessly for me now. I really do need to trim the install down though as I have 128 meg machines with shared graphics etc which means they already using the pagefile too much so copying files is always slow.

    Have you tried it since you started using Risult or try AutosRIS that my favorite I ahd trouble with the risult script?

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    small ris problemo

    I've got ris working fine on nearly all systems,
    but on a few laptops after I type in my username
    and password, the client install wizard skips the OS choice menu
    and asks me to repartition my disk( all data etc..). All other pc/laptops work fine. on other pcs you get a choice of os image but not on these.
    any help would be nice

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    I think that is something to do with the HAL line at the bottom of your sif file

    Code:
    HalName=halaacpi.dll
    Try seeing what HAL your machines are using and see if tis different.

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    @Tosca:

    The scripts I use are as follows:

    First of I add a folder called Install to the following path:

    \\YOUR_RIS_SERVER\REMINST\Setup\English\Images\YOU R_IMAGE_NAME\$oem$\$1

    Within this folder there are a number of batch (.cmd) files that correspond to various installs that need to be done and by placing them in this folder the are copied over to the machince during the text portion of setup.

    Example Files

    0.cmd
    Code:
    cmdow @ /HID
    @echo off
    
    SET KEY=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
    
    REG ADD %KEY% /V TITLE /D "Installing Drives And Applications" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\001 /VE /D "Mapping Network Drive" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\001 /V /1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\1.cmd" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\005 /VE /D "Adobe Reader 7" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 1 /D "q:\AdobeReader7\acroread702.exe" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\006 /VE /D "Smoothwall IDT" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\006 /V 1 /D "q:\Smoothwall_Ident\SWIDent.msi /quiet" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\007 /VE /D "User Hive Cleanup" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\007 /V 1 /D "MSIEXEC.EXE /i q:\UserCleanUp\UPHClean-Setup.msi /q" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\010 /VE /D "Microsoft Office 2003" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\010 /V 1 /D "q:\Office11\setup.exe TRANSFORMS=q:\Office11\Setup_Office_20_01_06.MST /qb-" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\011 /VE /D "Macromedia Dreamweaver 8" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\011 /V 1 /D "msiexec /qb! /i q:\Studio8\Macromedia_Dreamweaver_8.msi"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\012 /VE /D "Macromedia Extension Manager" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\012 /V 1 /D "msiexec /qb! /i q:\Studio8\Macromedia_Extension_Manager.msi"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\013 /VE /D "Macromedia Fireworks 8" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\013 /V 1 /D "msiexec /qb! /i q:\Studio8\Macromedia_Fireworks_8.msi"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\014 /VE /D "Macromedia Flash 8" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\014 /V 1 /D "msiexec /qb! /i q:\Studio8\Macromedia_Flash_8.msi"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\015 /VE /D "Macromedia Flash 8 Video Encoder" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\015 /V 1 /D "msiexec /qb! /i q:\Studio8\Macromedia_Flash_8_Video_Encoder.msi"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\016 /VE /D "Macromedia Patch Update 3.0.1" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\016 /V 1 /D "Msiexec /update q:\Studio8\CT_3.0.1_PatchPackage.msp /quiet"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\017 /VE /D "Macromedia Patch Update 3.1.1" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\017 /V 1 /D "msiexec /update q:\Studio8\CT_3.1.1_PatchPackage.msp /quiet"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\018 /VE /D "Macromedia Contribute 3.11" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\018 /V 1 /D "msiexec /qb! /i q:\Studio8\Macromedia_Contribute_3.11.msi"
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\019 /VE /D "IS Script 10.5" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\019 /V 1 /D "MSIEXEC.EXE /i q:\MindManager\ISScript1050.msi /qn" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\020 /VE /D "Mind Manager" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\020 /V 1 /D "MSIEXEC.EXE /i q:\MindManager\Mindjet_MindManager_Pro_6.msi /qn INSTALLDIR=C:\Progra~1\MindJet\MindManager6 EULA_REGION=2 ISX_SERIALNUM=XXXX-XXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX USERNAME=USER COMAPNYNAME=JCOMPANY" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\025 /VE /D "IS Script 11" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\025 /V 1 /D "MSIEXEC.EXE /i q:\QuickTime\ISScript11.msi /qn" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\030 /VE /D "Quick Time Player 7" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\030 /V 1 /D "MSIEXEC.EXE /i q:\QuickTime\QuickTime.msi /t q:\QuickTime\1031.MST ISSETUPDRIVEN=1" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\035 /VE /D "Windows Media Player 10" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\035 /V 1 /D "q:\WM10\mpsetupedp.msi /quiet" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\045 /VE /D "McAffee Anti Virus" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\045 /V 1 /D "q:\ePOAV\framepkg.exe" /f
    
    REG ADD %KEY%\050 /VE /D "Cleaning Up and Rebooting" /f
    REG ADD %KEY%\050 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\2.cmd" /f
    
    shutdown.exe -r -f -t 5 -c "Windows will now restart...."
    
    Exit
    This is the first thing that is run and add all the entires into registry under RunOnceEx and then reboots the machine

    Within our *.sif file we have set the autologin count = 2 as this is the number we need.

    Once the machine has rebooted and logs in the registry stuff we entered in 0.cmd is executed and the next .cmd is run

    1.cmd
    Code:
    cmdow @ /HID
    @echo off
    
    :: Create an authenticated connection to the server by mapping a drive.
    net use q: \\YOUR_SERVER\RemoteInstall\Programs /user:DOMAIN\USER /persistent:no PASSWORD
    
    :: Change to the Q Drive
    q:
    
    exit
    All this script does is map a physical drive to our remote apps server where we hold all the install files and then changes to it. Once this is done and all the applications have been installed we need to tidy up abit so we run the final .cmd file

    2.cmd
    Code:
    CMDOW @ /HID
    @echo off
    
    :: Start >>
    set AUPSM=%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu
    del "%AUPSM%\New Office Document.lnk"
    del "%AUPSM%\Open Office Document.lnk"
    del "%AUPSM%\Set Program Access and Defaults.lnk"
    del "%AUPSM%\Windows Catalog.lnk"
    del "%AUPSM%\Windows Update.lnk"
    
    :: Start >> Programs >>
    set UPSMP=%USERPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs
    del "%UPSMP%\Remote Assistance.lnk"
    
    set DUSMP=C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Start Menu\Programs
    del "%DUSMP%\Remote Assistance.lnk"
    
    :: Start >> Programs >> Accessories >>
    set AUPSMPA=%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\System Tools"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Communications"
    
    set DUSMP=C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories
    del "%DUSMP%\Tour Windows XP.lnk"
    del "%DUSMP%\Program Compatibility Wizard.lnk"
    del "%DUSMP%\Synchronize.lnk"
    del "%DUSMP%\Command Prompt.lnk"
    
    :: Start >> Programs >> Administrative Tools
    set AUPSMPA=%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative Tools
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Component Services.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Computer Management.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Data Sources (ODBC).lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Event Viewer.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Local Security Policy.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Performance.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Services.lnk"
    
    :: Start >> Programs >> TightVNC
    set AUPSMPA=%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\TightVNC
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Administration"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Documentation"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Show About Box.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Show User Settings.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\TightVNC Viewer (Best Compression).lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\TightVNC Viewer (Fast Compression).lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\TightVNC Viewer (Listen Mode).lnk"
    
    :: Start >> Programs >> Macromedia
    set AUPSMPA=%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Macromedia
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Readme Files"
    
    :: Start >> Programs >> QuickTime
    set AUPSMPA=%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\QuickTime
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\About QuickTime.lnk"
    rd /s /q  "%AUPSMPA%\Uninstall QuickTime.lnk"
    
    set UPSMPA=%USERPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories
    del "%UPSMPA%\Tour Windows XP.lnk"
    del "%UPSMPA%\Program Compatibility Wizard.lnk"
    del "%UPSMPA%\Synchronize.lnk"
    del "%UPSMPA%\Command Prompt.lnk"
    del "%UPSMPA%\Address Book.lnk"
    
    :: Copy Macromedia Licence Information Over
    Call macro_licence.vbs
    
    DEL "%systemroot%\*.bmp"
    DEL "%systemroot%\system32\dllcache\*.scr"
    DEL "%systemroot%\system32\*.scr"
    
    DEL /F /Q %SYSTEMDRIVE%\*.7z
    DEL /F /Q %WINDIR%\system32\setupold.exe
    DEL /F /Q %WINDIR%\system32\7za.exe
    DEL /F /Q %WINDIR%\system32\presetup.cmd
    RD /S /Q %SystemDrive%\D
    RD /S /Q %systemdrive%\Drivers
    RD /S /Q %systemdrive%\Macromedia
    
    net user aspnet /delete
    
    shutdown.exe -r -f -t 5 -c "Windows will now restart...."
    
    RD /S /Q %systemdrive%\install
    
    EXIT
    All this does is gut out a few shortcuts from the various profiles and remove all the driver files and extra stuff that was copied over during the text part of the setup.

    All you need to do to kick the whole thing off is add the following to you /sif file:

    Code:
    [GuiRunOnce]
    %systemdrive%\install\0.cmd
    And that's it really, by doing our installs this way all our machines get a complete clean install (not based on an image which is problematic in itself) and becouse we use RISult for driver intergration and post-SP2 fixes we have a very stable base image that we simply add .sif files to if we need another set of programs for a particular function i.e ICT, Science, Maths etc...

    Now as you may have guessed if you add alternative .sif files to the templates folder within I386, for example:

    XPSP2.sif
    XPSP2ICT.sif
    XPSP2SCIENCE.sif

    and number you initial .cmd files to correspond to the .sif file for example:

    0.cmd --> XPSP2.sif
    0a.cmd --> XPSP2ICT.sif
    0b.cmd --> XPSP2SCIENCE.sif

    you can quickly build up a very flexible imaging solution that works, doing it this way our ICT rooms using the batch files above take around 35-40mins each to image from start to finish however we are running a true 1GB backbone so your may take a little longer.

    I think thats it for now but if I think of anything else I update this post.

    Any questions please ask....

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    Chris - can you post your nlite [RIS.ini] config file [the one you use with AutoRIS] please?

    Thanks
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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    Also, does anyone know why I still get the Welcome to XP section even tho I have:

    Code:
    [Unattended]
    OEMPREINSTALL = YES
    
    [guiunattended]
    OEMSkipWelcome = 1
    Also, the:
    Code:
    [Display]
     AutoConfirm=1
    doesnt work either - not particularly very good during a autoinstall hehe

    Any thoughts as time is going fast

    Cheers
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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    Do you mean this ?

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    Re: Remote Installation Services (RIS)

    I have the same settings as you nath but only get that screen when the machine fails to join the domain properly.

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