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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    ILM is a ballache, but I have posted my documentation I made as I struggled through it on here somewhere (in this thread I think) which should give you a good idea of all the problems you might face (with the solutions I found)
    I have been looking at the document you wrote, was really helpful, but I was struggling to put it into the context of the deployment we were thinking of.

    Perhaps we need a rethink...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    What is the point of keeping staff on exchange?
    Knowing that I can restore any email within 60 seconds basically.
    Having a 12 month+ archive of emails.

    There were a lot of other considerations that took place but I cant remember them all.

    Email is misison critical to our business, and keeping it under our management just made sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewp View Post
    I have been looking at the document you wrote, was really helpful, but I was struggling to put it into the context of the deployment we were thinking of.

    Perhaps we need a rethink...
    It shouldnt take much to migrate the mailboxes from exchange to live@edu once you have the infrastucture in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    What is the point of keeping staff on exchange?
    Some of our users are uncomfortable with having there mailboxes moved to the cloud.

    Our first thoughts were to setup Live@EDU for our pupils, then to think about what we do with our staff mailboxes.

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    Very interesting....

    I've just moved our entire organisation over to live@edu including staff/teachers/governors and they are loving it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    It shouldnt take much to migrate the mailboxes from exchange to live@edu once you have the infrastucture in place?
    We were thinking of not migrating the contents of the existing pupil's mailboxes to live@edu, but just give them a new empty mailbox to fill up again...

    With your ILM setup, inorder to create the staff users as mail users in live@edu, did you have to set the Teaching container as an OU to sync?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    Very interesting....

    I've just moved our entire organisation over to live@edu including staff/teachers/governors and they are loving it so far.
    Did you do this in stages, or did you just do it all in one go?

    We have a limited ADSL connection on our campus, migrating our exchange mailboxes over a 1.5 Mbps uplink would be interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewp View Post
    We were thinking of not migrating the contents of the existing pupil's mailboxes to live@edu, but just give them a new empty mailbox to fill up again...

    With your ILM setup, inorder to create the staff users as mail users in live@edu, did you have to set the Teaching container as an OU to sync?
    Well then that is exactly what we did - students got synced as new mailboxes, staff got synced as mail-users.

    Yes, you simply select the teachers OU in ILM to sync as well. It determines the email address as whether it should create a mailbox (username@students.domain.com) or if it should create them as mail-users (username@domain.com.au)

    There is a bit of extra configuration needed in ILM to get this working though, took me a good few hours on the phone with support getting it set up, but I thnk the docs I uploaded here have that covered, Im on Version 5 of my docs so cant remember the last I put up here. Ive literally not had to touch it in 15 months since setting it up. It "Just Works".

    Feel free to PM me any time if you have any specific questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    Im on Version 5 of my docs so cant remember the last I put up here. Ive literally not had to touch it in 15 months since setting it up. It "Just Works".

    Feel free to PM me any time if you have any specific questions.
    The copy I downloaded was version 4, I don’t suppose you would be kind enough to upload your version 5 document

    I was thinking that it would take some time to work out how to do it, and its good to hear that once it's setup it's hassle free...

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    I will do so once I get back to work on Monday.

    The only thing I added to v5 though was a chapter about deprovisioning accounts. By default, if a user gets moved out of an OU, the live@edu mailbox etc stays. I just documented about ways of changing that so if you move a user out the OU, it deprovisions (aka deletes!) the mailbox etc.

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    We did the move all in one go over 2 days.

    We migrated the staff mailboxes manually (drag and drop from old to new account in outlook)

    We didn't migrate students as it seemed pointless at the end of the year.

    We also setup "out of office" replies on the old address to inform people of the change and left exchange running for 6 months with webmail accessible but no shortcut on peoples desktop.

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    just out of interest @zag, why didnt you just keep the same email addresses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbieBurns View Post
    just out of interest @zag, why didnt you just keep the same email addresses?
    We are now an acadamy so had the chance to move away from the LEA's web domain to a shorter one.

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    makes a lot of sense. Cheers.

    On a side note, and unrelated to this thread completely, but what is all this 'academy' speak i hear of. Where I grew up in scotland, most of our state schools for seniors were called 'blah blah academy'

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    Money from central government used to be sent to the LEA who distributed it to all the schools in the area.

    Being an academy now we get the money directly from government. It also gives us much more choice in how to run the school outside of the authority.

    This means we basically get a lot of extra funding.

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