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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezwick View Post
    The Head then sticks them in an envelope, along with a covering letter asking the offending parties parents to come in and discuss what we have found.
    I think this is a good approach. You could spend forever searching for inappropriate images (what a fantastic job description!) It's much better to take a people centred approach to dealing with it.

    I think whatever you do ought to fit with the school's general policy. Does someone go round on a regular basis and search bags, lockers, mobile phones etc to see if there are dodgy images? If not, then I don't think it's sensible to take the same approach with the computers.

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    @Beswick @srochfod Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Put them in an envelope but do not send them. Invite the parents in and offer them the chance to look at the offensive materials. If you mail them out then you could be at risk of the Obscene Publications Act. *Never* force someone else to look at possibly offensive adult materials.

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    Cor I dunno, adolescents looking at pictures of ladies & men in various states of undress - sounds quite normal to me......

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    Parents may argue that the school should be providing the means for said undressed people to be viewed though.... what students do on their own computers is of no concern beyond ensuring CEOP training is provided.

    All the same I have gone off the idea. GrumbleDook will correct me if I'm wrong, but the following scenario has occurred to me-

    1. Johnny in year eight is going out with Jessica in his form. She let him take some "special" pictures of her.

    2. Johnny stupidly puts them on his home area.

    3. IT Support find them as part of their pro-active sweep.

    4. IT Support walk down to the file server and pull the plug as mandated for illegal images of this type.

    5. Images are also on backup server- repeat step four.

    6. IT Support ring the Police and hand over file server, backup server and all tapes.

    At this point it may be prudent to rapidly leaving the building before the screams of rage from SMT, teachers, students, parents, Govenors and anyone else who cares to involve themselves can be heard.

    Ignorance it has to be said is bliss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwds View Post
    All the same I have gone off the idea. GrumbleDook will correct me if I'm wrong, but the following scenario has occurred to me-
    I've edited the order of these and paraphrased to try and reflect the reality of what would happen from the IT Tech's/NM's experience of it.

    1. IT Support find a number of high flesh-tone pictures as part of their pro-active sweep. On a basic check of thumbnails one member of the team spots someone they believe to be a student in the school in the altogether. At this point they stop viewing the images until there is a second person present.

    2. They contact the Child Protection Officer who comes up to the office (immediately?)

    3. The CPO and the IT Tech check the actual photos and as soon as they look at it they see that it is one of their students. They stop viewing any more pictures.


    4. IT Support walk down to the file server and pull the plug as mandated for illegal images of this type. The IT Support team know it is a major issue to pull the plug on the server and the CPO goes with them to inform the head. In the interim they check whose home area they are on and they disable that account (including kicking the user of the system if needed) so the only people who now have access to that area are those with administrative access to the file server. The CPO issues the instruction that all IT Support staff are to log off their computers from that server without accessing any other files immediately. At this point the IT Tech/NM has isolated the original access to the files, limited access to the files by instruction to trusted individuals (ie those who have admin access anyway) but has not changed the permissions or nature of the files.

    5. Images are also on backup server- repeat step four.

    6. IT Support ring the Police and report the incident. Discussion takes place between the CPO, the Head, the NM and only a few other key staff about the implication of having to hand over file server, backup server and all tapes.The police are informed of the importance of the server to the normal running of the school and it is in the hands of the police as to what the decision is about they remove the complete server and all backups. As part of this report the police are informed of the identified student and the user whose home area they are in. They will deal with contacting the appropriate parts of social services who will initiate an investigation.

    7. The investigation has found that Johnny in year eight is going out with Jessica in his form. She let him take some "special" pictures of her.

    8. Johnny stupidly puts them on his home area.

    At this point it may be prudent to rapidly leaving the building before the screams of rage from SMT, teachers, students, parents, Govenors and anyone else who cares to involve themselves can be heard.

    Ignorance it has to be said is bliss.
    From the training I have had and what I have been told to do the above seems to be a fuller explanation of the scenario but I would be remiss to point out that it may vary from investigation to investigation ... there are no timescales ... and it is also down to the decisions on the day. I will send the scenario over to the local team to see what their point of view would be on it though. I would also like to check what other scenarios they may think we need to cover.

    I think we have an item to cover at the next Conference and I think it really needs to be delivered by CEOP / Police.

    Oh ... there is one last thing on all of this ... at this point you might want to start thinking about your disaster recovery / business continuity plan. You do have one don't you?

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    Its not me that does it, so its nothing to do with me, but from what i can gather the head only posts out stuff that is sort of Page 3 standard, the really bad stuff they are called in for. Dont worry. Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    @Beswick @srochfod Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Put them in an envelope but do not send them. Invite the parents in and offer them the chance to look at the offensive materials. If you mail them out then you could be at risk of the Obscene Publications Act. *Never* force someone else to look at possibly offensive adult materials.

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    I have an esafety flow chart that guides IT Managers in situations like this.

    For us we have an Internet/network infringments folder. When we find material not suitable for school/work we print it out date, sign and inform the esafety coordinator who is also the Deputy Head Teacher.

    I will dig the flow chart out and post it here. if it is any use to people

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    Flowchart for Managing an eSafety Incident

    Here is the Flowchart for Managing an eSafety Incident.

    Hope this helps, I will say is I dod not create this. This was given to my line manager from another authority.

    We are giving this to all staff as a guide so we all follow the same procedure

    Cheers

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    Hi here is the origional document for you all to see, its designed for schools to adapt to their own policy.

    link for information on esafety etc . HGfL: eSafety :Internet Access Policies

    esafety document http://www.thegrid.org.uk/eservices/...ptable_use.doc

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    We found this very useful: Schools e-Safety Policy Generator

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    We use a remote backup solution as well even though it is fully encrypted this would have to be sorted out with the police.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gibbo_ap View Post
    we have securus but have yet to properly implement it. when used correctly it has a skintone/boob image detector. wen we were shown it it did get confused by bald men but they were working on it at that time.
    We have that enabled on our Securus system. I've not managed to fiddle with the settings so that it doesn't return many many false positives, but it's better to get too many possible violations rather than too few!

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