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How do you do....it? Thread, Do you use electronic registers or paper? in Technical; We are still using paper here and scanning into SIMS. Would like to move across to all electronic entry but ...
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    Do you use electronic registers or paper?

    We are still using paper here and scanning into SIMS. Would like to move across to all electronic entry but worried about reliability of SIMS log ins!

    What do you do and what issues if any have you faced?

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    You seem to have missed Facility/ePortal from the list...

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    We use sims, anyone who has issues getting into sims just does a paper register if we don't fix it in time, then the admin staff enter the paper stuff like they used to.

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    Old fashioned register books here, but then we're a small independent school

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom_ View Post
    We use sims, anyone who has issues getting into sims just does a paper register if we don't fix it in time, then the admin staff enter the paper stuff like they used to.
    Same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mako View Post
    Same here.
    Us too. Works well

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    The biggest issue we faced was (teaching) staff attitudes. Initially they would always say they couldn't do it because of a non-specific computer problem that they couldn't recount when asked.

    Every member of staff was trained and given an extremely easy to follow idiot's guide which was in colour and laminated (both at the Head Teacher's insistance) after I had tested it on the least technically adept teacher. Thereafter there were a few who wouldn't do them for some reason but SLT were very good at dealing with those in most cases.

    The paper method used to confuse me greatly - print a register from an electronic system to be marked in pencil then scanned back into an electronic system. The ladies in the office used to have problems with incomplete registers, marks in the wrong place, temperamental scanners, etc. Changing to full electronic method reduced their workload and also meant that eventually we could move to registering every class, allowing us to pick up on those pupils that registered and then bunked off.

    My advice therefore would be get SLT on board first and explain to them the benefits. Also sound out a few teachers, including the ones who are most resistant to change and / or technology so you know what other issues you may have to address or overcome.

    What issues are you having with log-ins for SIMS?

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    Paper registers here. The attendance officer then has to go through every register and enter every mark into Sims manually, twice a day. No scanning here!

    Very backwards unfortunately. Especially since every classroom has a PC and every teacher a laptop

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdarrmonkey View Post
    You seem to have missed Facility/ePortal from the list...
    Sorry, didn't know about it!

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    bromcom here

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    pars but moving to lesson monitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibbo_ap View Post
    pars but moving to lesson monitor
    Can I ask the reason why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom_ View Post
    We use sims, anyone who has issues getting into sims just does a paper register if we don't fix it in time, then the admin staff enter the paper stuff like they used to.

    Ditto for the Upper School (Y7 - IB2/Upper Sixth) - For AM attendance and lesson registration, if they bother to do it. Lots of resistance, mostly complaining about the time it takes and inability to get into system quick enough. Mostly due to slow PC/network, but blame goes on SIMS.

    Primary School (Creche - Y6) do it on paper and the poor Admin Assistant enters them into SIMS, so that all data is in one place.

    @Soulfish - i hope you don't mean what you said and each mark is entered into SIMS individually. Please tell me they block fill the column with present marks and just alter any absences. Please please please. You could be sued for causing repetitive strain on the index finger that holds down the '/' key!! :P

    I'm investigating methods independent of the SIMS app, i.e. web based systems:

    SLG - not pretty, needs to be built around sharepoint.
    3rd party webparts - still need sharepoint setup which we don't have .. . . YET!
    TeachersWebFolder - looks really impressive so far, and it's cheap.
    something else from PARs/Insight...? - not seen demo yet but need to set up for SLT

    All write back to SIMS live which is the main aim.
    Last edited by vikpaw; 2nd February 2010 at 11:02 AM. Reason: typo

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    We use pars, but have a variety of methods in which it can done, PDA's, browser or from their tablet.

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    Sims registration then lesson monitor the rest of the day. 6th Form sign in when they are in the building and are registered with lesson monitor when in lessons.

    Currently looking at ways to get rid of the paper registration for the 6th form.

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