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    Quote Originally Posted by elsiegee40 View Post
    UPNs aren't quite so daft as they sound.

    They start with the LA number - so 886 in Kent - that could be dropped
    Then there's the 4 digit school code -

    After that comes the number for the pupil... I bet most would be unique on the last 4 or 5 digits.
    How are you going to handle kids who transfer from outside the county?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    How are you going to handle kids who transfer from outside the county?
    I didn't say I'd thought it through entirely... even so I reckon that in most schools last 5 digits, particularly if prefixed with a year group letter would give you the uniqueness required.

    In primaries, which is where the problem was originally posed, smaller numbers and the fact that kids start school in their own county makes this even more likely to work.

    Actually, I don't like UPN for small primary kids - many have only just learned to count to 10; I was just throwing some ideas in

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    well, the rest of the school use their unique admission number (minus the 00) so if they cant remember 4 numbers i think they're doomed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by achedgy View Post
    Most of the primary schools i look after just use a class user and all the kids login as that. For foundation stage i try to make it as simple as possible as it is normally the staff who do the logging on.A couple of schools have individual users for all the kids but watching them login is painful!
    we do have same class logon as calss name and password is the first letter of the class name
    eg u name :- park
    p word :- p

    simple

    foundation people teachers do login
    user name - teacher
    passsword - teacher

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    the primary schools i look after use either of the following

    n for nursery
    y1 etc

    or

    class1

    with either blank passwords or a repeat of the logon name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon72 View Post
    class1

    passwords or a repeat of the logon name
    Our neighbouring infant school use that convention. Here in the Junior school the classes have Country names - one logon for each class with folders for each pupil. Passwords have been fairly simple up to now, I'm thinking of making them a little more complex this year, with some capitals and numbers. Classes keep their passwords throughout the school so they are reasonably good at remembering them. Teachers find it hard as they have to get used to a new class password each year poor things.

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    Just thinking out loud... does anyone use either biometrics (fingerprint, etc) or perhaps an RFID token or something for primary? I guess tokens may be a bit apt to be lost, but fingerprints could be pretty easy. Never used them in anger, so couldn't say how robust the system would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon72 View Post
    the primary schools i look after use either of the following

    n for nursery
    y1 etc

    or

    class1

    with either blank passwords or a repeat of the logon name
    The primary school I look after does too..I suggested individual log-ons for years 5 and 6 but they didn't want them.
    Very different in my other school, which is a middle school (yrs 5 -8). All children have their own log-on - consisting of year of entry, surname and first 3 letters of first name - eg 09smithjam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillibear View Post
    Just thinking out loud... does anyone use either biometrics (fingerprint, etc) or perhaps an RFID token or something for primary? I guess tokens may be a bit apt to be lost, but fingerprints could be pretty easy. Never used them in anger, so couldn't say how robust the system would be.
    One of my schools tried using fingerprints on the children's laptops, but it didn't work well. Some of the kids were too young to have sufficiently defined prints, and many didn't have the coordination necessary to swipe their finger at the right pressure. Within a couple of weeks, pretty much all of them were back to passwords.

    At that particular school they got to choose their own password, so they were generally single-word (low security) ones. Some of the "clues" are great:

    "My Name" (this is printed on the lid!), "favourite colour" (90% of time pink for girls, blue for boys) or (next to football club badge) "favourite team".

    I'm guessing biometric readers aren't cheap, either.

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    We use class usernames with no passwords, but we want to change it just to fs as the foundation classnames are very long (ducklings, hedgehogs, willow).



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