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How do you do....it? Thread, PAT test training in Technical; Has anybody been trained and do it in their school? Myself and the resources manager were considering it. Any interesting ...
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    PAT test training

    Has anybody been trained and do it in their school?

    Myself and the resources manager were considering it. Any interesting points to make?

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    It's boring don't do it?

    I did a course with the LEA years ago but they still get someone else in to do it.

    We do the odd item.

    Ben

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    One of our site team trained to do it brought the machine and everything!! Not got the time to do it so they pay someone to come in every year. Quite a costly exercise!

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    I wouldn't do it.

    You're basically making yourselves liable for electrical safety....

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    Why?

    You test it once a year and it either passes or fails, as long as the machine is calibrated when it should be where's the problem.

    If an item is subsequently damaged after the test making it unsafe then that's not your problem.

    Ben

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    It's meant to be the most boring job known to man. We know get a contractor to do it, it used to be the job of one our science techs, he was employed through the holidays to do it. He gave it up despite having to go term time only to do so.

    Avoid

    Oh and our caretaker failed the test, twice.

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    It's dull, makes you potencially liable, and it's dull.

    Leave well alone if you can.

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    training...i watched a video which was narrated by some monotone muppet, took a test, passed....forgot it all

    DULL and suicide inducing

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    The trouble with being trained on it by the school is that you risk being expected to PAT the whole building, instead of just your kit. I'd leave well alone if I were you.

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    my thoughts

    i think pat testing is a necessary evil, but when you see the items that are tested by external contractors it beggars belief.
    Basically something is classed as portable equipment if it can be moved around without the use of a tool to make it portable ( not a lock, etc, a tool ) but the external contractors will test 'anything with a plug on it' which is unnecessary, but safe.
    External contractors will also have millions of pounds of insurance to cover themselves should anything go wrong after/during an inspection, which you may not be able to aquire.
    Having an 'in house' constant program of inspection and testing is preferable to rapid pat testing done periodically.
    I have myself tested so called 'failed' equipment many times, and found that the 'fail' result was due to the device being switched 'on' and the inspector had not bothered to check this !
    Personally i would continue to use external companies to do the inspection, but purchase a pat tester for yourselves, so you can test repaired equipment, and items brought in from outside. ( any 'part p' test instrument will do this )

    Originally PAT testing was aimed at building sites, and reducing accidents/fatalities there, and has spread outwards from there. So long as you remember safety comes first , you should be ok.


    p.s i am a qualified electrician, and i hold qualifications in inspection and testing.

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    You're buying electrical equipment and "taking it into service" without knowing if it is safe? Do you repair equipment and return it to service without KNOWING that it is safe?

    Then you ARE liable if something goes wrong. Lots of B/S above!

    Testing isn't difficult or onerous, but you should have training whether in-house or perhaps better, get an externally accredited "qualification". I did a City & Guilds course with Southampton City College. Training was OK, but the answers we were given for past papers weren't for the right papers which didn't help revising.

    It is an open book, multi-guess paper which I could have done without the course, but I had been testing for some years anyway.

    Oh yes. it is as dull as everyone above says.

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    Right, thats a big fat NO then.

    Glad i asked, will no longer spend anymore time on it!

    Thanking you!

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    I don't electrically repair equipment as I am not trained to do so.

    Therefore if something is repaired such as a computer with a new hard drive etc... it's not PAT tested before it goes back into service.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    I don't electrically repair equipment as I am not trained to do so.
    It's worth emphasising this. A PAT qualification does not qualify you to repair equipment. You can only fail it.

    That said, changing a hard drive does not require re-testing, because PAT is testing the power supply not the low-voltage part.

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