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    Ghosting a non networked laptop?

    Hi All,
    I have just been informed that we are getting a trolley of 20 laptops that will not be connected to the network.
    I'm concerned about how I am going to keep the laptops up to date and was thinking of using ghost.
    As we are a CC3 school I am not using ghost at the moment so I thought I would ask you chaps the following...

    • Can I ghost a laptop from a dvd
    • Can I ghost a laptop from an external HD
    • Can I use an alternative to ghost


    Cheers

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    I had to do the exact same thing. PITA

    Now this might not be the best way but I had limited time and resources and this was the best I could kludge together
    So I set one up, ghosted it onto an external HD.
    Copied the image back to the original machine (changed IP address - very important)
    Got hold of a cheap old switch and plugged them all in.
    Ghosted them from the image on the original machine (set them off at intervals so as when they finished I had time to change the IP address before I had two machines with same IP).
    Bob's your mother's brother.

    I believe you can do it from ext HD and DVD as well.

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    Thanks Sparkeh,
    So does ghost "see" the external HD?
    I have only ever used ghost on a statard workstation to another ide HD!

    Thanks

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    I tend to do it using a USB drive plugged in that has a copy of ghost itself and the image on, and boot the machine with PEBuilder..which gives you a windows-y shell and access to the drive.

    Is a PITA though.

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    I have found that an ext HDD does the job a lot faster than using DVDs or the ancient network in one of my schools (obviously on a one-machine-at-a-time basis!). Times are around 90-120 mins on the network (and it tends to slow down the whole network), 45-60 mins DVD/s, 20 mins ext HDD.

    I use UBCD4Win with Ghost slipstreamed to boot up the machine (remember to plug in your ext HDD first!) which does add a few more minutes on to the time.

    I've also used Drive Image XML, which isn't as fast as Ghost but is free! (It's also included as part of UBCD4W and - I think - the BART disk).

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    I have not used UBCD4Win before but thanks for the tip. It looks like a good piece of kit to have at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirbendy View Post
    I tend to do it using a USB drive plugged in that has a copy of ghost itself and the image on, and boot the machine with PEBuilder..which gives you a windows-y shell and access to the drive.
    I have not used PEbuilder before. Is it pretty straightforward to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggiep View Post
    Thanks Sparkeh,
    So does ghost "see" the external HD?
    I have only ever used ghost on a statard workstation to another ide HD!

    Thanks
    Yep.

    Ok let me rephrase that. It 'should do'.

    To be honest, I am not too keen on Ghost and it would be worth looking at alternatives. I had a few issues during the process and some had to be reimaged.

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    Just because they won't be "connected" to the network in normal use does that mean you can plug them into the network to ghost and update them?

    Seems daft to have unconnected laptops but there we go.

    Ben

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    it's what UBCD is based on.. UBCD will do the same.

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    When I did something similar recently I used ghost to take an image to an external HDD. Then copied said image to a few DVDs and then just booted the laptops from a USB Flash drive which loaded ghost and took the image from the DVD.

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    Can you not stick the image onto a network share, insert the ghost DVD and then point the disk to the image on the share to restore?

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    @hodgehi : yeah that will work too, however they aren't connected to the network

    What we've been doing, which might also be useful, is splitting the harddrive into two partitions, and putting a second copy of the ghost image on the other partition - then if you want to restore settings to your original image you can do a ghost across the partitions. May come in useful if you get them being mucked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggiep View Post
    • Can I ghost a laptop from a dvd
    • Can I ghost a laptop from an external HD
    • Can I use an alternative to ghost
    You can ghost from a DVD
    You can ghost from an external HDD
    You can use alternative.

    We use ghost and FOG here (FOG is open source = free!) and is a very nice piece of kit..

    We PXE boot our computers to image them using FOG or Ghost, this is probably the best way and allows you to multicast the machines, i.e. image 100s at a time. Our current record is 75 computers in one go. I'm hoping to beat that this summer :P

    FOG is here

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    looks interesting...can it read or use existing ghost images?

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