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    Question No more VCRs! - What do we do?

    Remember back in the day when your teacher used to wheel in a chunky TV and you'd watch some sex education program that had been recorded off of BBC at 2 in the morning?
    Yep. Me too.

    I was wondering how you guys do that with the tech of today.

    Once a week, I get asked if there is a way to record off of iPlayer because some history show was on and it'll be easier than, you know, teaching!
    I do tell them that no, I'm not puling from the iPlayer, no way. But we can't be the only people coming across this can we? Outside of getting the Hauppauge off of my console set up and streaming from my skybox to my PC and recording in real time (which I'm not doing. Not because I don't want to help, but I simply don't get paid enough to waste time at home watching shows on photosynthesis) what else can I do?

    In honesty, I'm just curious as to what others do to get around things like copyright issues and inferior tech.

    Cheers in advance

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    Windows media centre with a tv card. Most BBC stuff is repeated in the early hours so if they miss it you can record it. PLus you can series link recurring themes. Things like the local news, time team, bang goes the theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberry View Post
    Windows media centre with a tv card. Most BBC stuff is repeated in the early hours so if they miss it you can record it. PLus you can series link recurring themes. Things like the local news, time team, bang goes the theory.
    Cool. cheers.
    Is that something you'd do at home or set up in the office to do out of hours?

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    I thought it was all on BBC education site? Am I wrong?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/education

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    There's a reason this is the busiest time of year.

    "DVD won't play in class Y"
    "There's no sound!"
    "We're trying to watch Star Wars VII and the site has been blocked from the filter!"

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    I use XBMC and DVBViewer allows me to record Series of TV Shows whenever they are on or allows me to schedule to record a single show. This then get's saved as an MP4 and is shoved on a shared area so all staff can play the video, works very well.

    VHS may not be around but you can pick up cheap DVD Recorders if you want to do it that way! I miss those days when the head would wheel out the VHS player and 20" 4:3 Television, takes me back to when I was a young-un in primary school.

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    clickview 24-7 cloud - will allow you to pull off freeview programmes off 24 channels from the last 2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    I thought it was all on BBC education site? Am I wrong?

    BBC - Knowledge & Learning
    Honestly, I had no idea that site existed!
    Gonna take a stab and say if I didn't, half the teachers here don't either. I'll have a look at that. Much obliged.

    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    There's a reason this is the busiest time of year.

    "DVD won't play in class Y"
    "There's no sound!"
    "We're trying to watch Star Wars VII and the site has been blocked from the filter!"
    Oh yes!
    This time of year half my tickets are "I was trying to watch Godzilla on Youtube and I can't get past the copyright warning!"
    ARGH!

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    Something like an Omnivision from OneLAN may be better. It can record and stream television.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abillybob View Post
    I use XBMC and DVBViewer allows me to record Series of TV Shows whenever they are on or allows me to schedule to record a single show. This then get's saved as an MP4 and is shoved on a shared area so all staff can play the video, works very well.

    VHS may not be around but you can pick up cheap DVD Recorders if you want to do it that way! I miss those days when the head would wheel out the VHS player and 20" 4:3 Television, takes me back to when I was a young-un in primary school.
    Yeah, me too! Feel old saying it though!

    Quote Originally Posted by maark View Post
    clickview 24-7 cloud - will allow you to pull off freeview programmes off 24 channels from the last 2 weeks.
    We looked at a clickview system a while ago. trialed it for 6 months, one person used it, three times.
    I'll look at the cloud thing though, thanks

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    I copy nothing.
    I rip nothing.
    I media shift nothing.

    I got 99 problems, but copyright infringement aint one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galway View Post
    I got 99 problems, but copyright infringement aint one of them.
    Oooooo.... debate time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galway View Post
    I copy nothing.
    I rip nothing.
    I media shift nothing.

    I got 99 problems, but copyright infringement aint one of them.
    I do very much try to live like that too!
    Interesting how teachers find ways to get around stuff though. I regularly find myself deleting massing HD downloads of movies that still have the damn scene name and group tag on them.

    I don't know how some people's heads work to be honest.
    I have found the perfect conversation though.

    "Can you download this off of >Insert video site< for me"
    "Does it have a button that says Download"
    "no"
    "Then no"

    Usually that's the end of the discussion.

    I was genuinely curious how other schools got around the issues though

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    Copyright laws have recently been updated, but only to cover what they already do. I have not seen anything that allows me to change my stance as yet.
    Feel free to justify how you are able to legally offer such resources.

    These have been posted in previous threads

    http://copyright4education.blogspot....ation.html?m=1

    http://www.ipo.gov.uk/copyright-exceptions.htm

    http://www.copyrightandschools.org/
    ^
    Teacher friendly.
    Last edited by Galway; 3rd July 2014 at 12:19 PM. Reason: more gumf

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    It's the copyright infringement that always concerns me.

    Any numpty with half a brain can get a dodgy copy of a TV show.
    Someone with a little knowledge can even remove watermarks and any defining features from the video itself.

    If I do it at home, it's only me that gets into trouble.
    But the school would be hip deep in it if we get audited and we can't prove where it comes form (or at least that it isn't pirated) and that's my job (and probably the NM's too)



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