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    Staff asking us to rip DVD's to network so multiple classrooms can show film.

    Recently we have had a new Head of English who keeps asking us to rip DVD's and add them to the network so multiple members of the department can play them at the same time. I am pretty sure this is illegal but the HOD is not prepared to buy 7 copies of each DVD.

    I was wondering if any one could help.

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    Tell him no - you are breaking copyright and opening the school up to a possibility of a big fine.

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    You're right - it's illigal. If the HoD won't accept that then maybe a quiet word with your Head is in order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I am pretty sure this is illegal
    It is.

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    It isn't always illegal, there are lots of DVD out of copyright or DVD's that don't have any immediate copyright issues such as those designed to be distributed in schools.
    You've got to check the actual DVD and be sure it is legal to redistribute copies before you do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    there are lots of DVD out of copyright

    • Copyright in a film expires 70 years after the end of the year in which the death occurs of the last to survive of the principal director, the authors of the screenplay and dialogue, and the composer of any music specially created for the film.


    Intellectual Property Office - How long does copyright last?

    DVDs were invented in 1995. There are NO DVDs where the copyright has expired. Films where the copyright should have expired will have been bought by another company and then extended... because reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    DVDs were invented in 1995. There are NO DVDs where the copyright has expired. Films where the copyright should have expired will have been bought by another company and then extended... because reasons.
    Not sure that is what @CyberNerd was getting at.

    The terms of the copyright are upto the copyright holder. Especially in school produced material, the copyright might be more favourable or waived all together. He is right, it's worth double checking first before hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    DVDs were invented in 1995. There are NO DVDs where the copyright has expired. Films where the copyright should have expired will have been bought by another company and then extended... because reasons.
    It's not quite that clear cut, because IF the DVD was recorded from terrestrial TV, it was correctly labelled at the time and you have an ERA+ license then it is perfectly legal to copy it for educational use.
    There are also cases I've come across where there is NO copyright on the DVD.

    It's better to weigh up each case individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    It's not quite that clear cut, because IF the DVD was recorded from terrestrial TV, it was correctly labelled at the time and you have an ERA+ license then it is perfectly legal to copy it for educational use.
    There are also cases I've come across where there is NO copyright on the DVD.

    It's better to weigh up each case individually.
    I was going to mention that, then got distracted.

    Yes, there are DVDs with little [or NO] copyright, and homemade stuff should, to a certain extent, be fine. [No, recording Game of Thrones at home doesn't mean you can watch it at work]

    It's like torrents. Not all torrents infringe copyright, but it's still worth checking it's legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
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    Intellectual Property Office - How long does copyright last?

    DVDs were invented in 1995. There are NO DVDs where the copyright has expired. Films where the copyright should have expired will have been bought by another company and then extended... because reasons.
    Copyright in a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work lasts for the life of the author and 70 years from the end of the year in which he/she died.

    Copyright in a film expires 70 years after the end of the year in which the death occurs of the last to survive of the principal director, the authors of the screenplay and dialogue, and the composer of any music specially created for the film.

    I can't see that the format the film is on bears any relation to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Copyright in a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work lasts for the life of the author and 70 years from the end of the year in which he/she died.

    Copyright in a film expires 70 years after the end of the year in which the death occurs of the last to survive of the principal director, the authors of the screenplay and dialogue, and the composer of any music specially created for the film.

    I can't see that the format the film is on bears any relation to this?

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    Something to consider - DVDs also have custom menus, titles etc... applied to them. So potentially, they would be classified as a derivative and therefore a new work under copyright. Same with remastering of sound/video etc... for use with modern sound and HD TVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post

    I can't see that the format the film is on bears any relation to this?

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    There are also "publication rights" which extend copyright to the publisher for 25years from first publication.

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    Tell the HOD that the school stands to be fined and or Jail time if they are caught doing this. If he is insistant then get it in writing and keep that handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjashadow View Post
    Tell the HOD that the school stands to be fined and or Jail time if they are caught doing this. If he is insistant then get it in writing and keep that handy
    He is still asking you to break the law so just refuse.

    You can not be disciplined for refusing to take part in something you know to be illegal.

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    so very true, it also might be worth keeping a set of copy right laws handy

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