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    Re: Web Logging

    We had some permission things, so be sure to test it before applying the GPO.
    I set up a share called "inet" on \\server for a folder named "inet" (e:\inet... contains common things like the log dirs, italc's key dir).
    I created a subfolder for the logs, so now i was at E:\inet\logs (\\server\inet\logs)
    I made sure the inet share had permission to browse folder, read, list contents. the "logs" folder had custom permissions for basically full permission, sans-deleting.

    Yes, I know this means our little shits could potentially browse around, find the share, and view the browsing logs of every other kid.
    But since they can't exactly browse the network without meaningfully wanting to.. and the fact even if they modify their own files (or someone else's), the person's file will become part of their browsing history and therefore be added to their list at logoff... we're not that worried.
    We don't tell them how we monitor or what we do, they have no idea it's a bunch of html files somewhere; they simply know we can tell where they've been.
    Plus, they've watched me use iTALC, so they assume it's simply all through that, and they can' run it if they wanted to.

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    Re: Web Logging

    The script has a basic flaw, what if the pupil just powers the machine off instead of logging off. In a school I would suggest it is a requirement to provide some sort of logging via a proxy. We use ISA but there are many available using a linux distro.

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    Re: Web Logging

    Do the freeware linux solutions support user logging? Or just general logging?
    We used an ISA for a bit, but after problems with it, we changed to using our VLE as the proxy. Which works reasonably well.
    Wouldnt mind going back to a solution that i can completely admin myself though.

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    Re: Web Logging

    Well I have Squid + Dansguardian here. They both produce usable access logs. There are also log parsers that will take these logs and produce pretty html pages to summarise them.

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    Re: Web Logging

    SmoothWall express will provide the logging you need for free.

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    url: http://www.smoothwall.org

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    Re: Web Logging

    Any idea on permissions I can give so the user can run the script on log off. At the moment it says they are not allowed while they are logging off.

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    Re: Web Logging

    Quote Originally Posted by jsnetman
    The script has a basic flaw, what if the pupil just powers the machine off instead of logging off. In a school I would suggest it is a requirement to provide some sort of logging via a proxy. We use ISA but there are many available using a linux distro.
    True dat. We have smartfilter set up as well, but without requiring students/faculty to log in to use the internet, all we get from that is a bunch of IP's internet usage.

    Thankfully, we really don't have any kids powering off the computers. They're actually instructed to never shut down the PCs, only log off.

    Amazingly, they obey.

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    Re: Web Logging

    Quote Originally Posted by Enzomatrx
    I use a vbs script someone posted it, runs at logoff via GPO for whoever we apply the GPO to.
    We use this, works very well.

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    Re: Web Logging

    Still cant get it to work due to restrictions on users.

    *tom_newton - we have a proxy which the computers go through, it is one we have no control over and they must go through it, I believe it is at the councils end. I was wondering would the smoothwall version you suggested above still work with the proxy from the council. If it is not used, Internet does not work.

    Thanks, Glenn

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    Re: Web Logging

    How easy would it be to give this data folder a gui so that teachers can use it easily?

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    Re: Web Logging

    The understand that there is a flaw but, as I've already explained, implementing a proxy server is not an option at the moment and I will as soon as I can.

    Using folder permissions the kids could view the folder but it appears to be empty. They think we keep a log but don't understand how this works - logoff scripts would take some explaining for most of them!

    Since Tuesday afternoon I have a file for 583 students - that's about half. It shows that, basically, we have a school full of kids that like goowy and don't like working. Can't wait to run off my first report from this data.

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    Re: Web Logging

    gwendes what permissions did you give users so the script can run on log off?

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    Re: Web Logging

    Didn't have a problem with the student accounts running the script. Guess you could resolve any problem with checking the permissions in the folder where the script is running from...

    The permissions problem I had was with the folder that is storing the log.

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    Re: Web Logging

    Yey, got it working. Brill

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    Re: Web Logging

    sweet

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