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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    How do you complete your statutory Duty of Care to ensure that devices are not used, whilst in school, for bullying, sharing illegal materials, sexting, or other activities which may cause harm to children?
    This is a point that I have raised here. I know that UltraSurf can bypass proxy servers so I have ensured that Sophos blocks UltraSurf and it's ilk but I also know there are certain 6th Form students that will have UltraSurf installed on their laptops before they even bring them in.

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    I think BYOD depends on which "flavour" of it you go for, I see two main camps...

    1) provide a standard desktop on someone else's device, pretty much a VDI project
    2) turn everything web-based e.g. VLE, Google Apps \ Office 365 etc

    I'm more in the 2nd one than the first at present as VDI is so pricey to implement, as it stands I've got the usual guest Wi-Fi VLAN and Palo Alto to keep P2P etc in check. Ruckus does client isolation so one BYOD laptop cna't talk to another within the same network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    education.
    Who signs off that the education is both suitable and effective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrritableTech View Post
    @GrumbleDook Students are already bringing these devices into schools. Banning them, just puts them under the desk rather than on top of it. Devices still in use but the educational potential lost. Bullying, sexting and all the other online activities which do harm children could already be happening within the school fence. Education is key to stopping these activities, however monitoring internet use will also identify when students go off the rails. Schools can not monitor 3G connections. So to my mind, allowing BYOD should help reduce these risks rather than increase them.

    Before launch I hope to get various members of the school community together to write a suitable user policy. It is my belief that if we involve students in the decision making, they will more likely stick to its outcomes.
    I know ... I am playing Devil's Advocate here to try to identify a few key processes and facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    Who signs off that the education is both suitable and effective?
    Michael Gove takes the ultimate responsibility.

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    This could be interesting in terms of BYOD - although it would mean leaving data on third party machines

    VMware Mirage (Formerly Wanova)

    Although with VDI these days BYOD could be implemented so easily. Including connect from anywhere etc

    VMware View currently has client for - Windows, OSX, Ubuntu Linux, IOS and Android - with there being an open source version which has been complied to run on loads of other OS's - including the Raspberry PI

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post

    Michael Gove takes the ultimate responsibility.
    Oh, how so many wish that was true!

    Within your school, who signs off that the education is both suitable and effective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    I know ... I am playing Devil's Advocate here to try to identify a few key processes and facts.
    I hoped as much

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    Oh, how so many wish that was true!

    Within your school, who signs off that the education is both suitable and effective?
    Headteacher, Governors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrritableTech View Post
    I hoped as much
    I've just been reading your blog @IrritableTech, great stuff. Thanks for writing it all up.

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    Not at all, thank you. Glad you found it useful @zag

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    Thanks for both your answers, seems our aruba system doesn't have that functionality.

    We have the captive portal but there isnt any option to connect it to AD
    We have an Aruba system here.
    We're connected to AD via a RADIUS server and this is how staff and students authenticate to use their personal devices, and it also allows us to manage accounts for 'true' guests locally on the controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Headteacher, Governors.
    What training, experience, advice / guidance (including legal) have the Headteacher and Governors had to be able to make this assessment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    What training, experience, advice / guidance (including legal) have the Headteacher and Governors had to be able to make this assessment?
    I suspect they've read an article on the BBC that says mauve is the best colour for BYOD as it has the most RAM. And that was the beginning and ending of their training, unless the LA sponsored a day for them to listen to someone who last stepped into a classroom in the 80s and who thinks "Bring your Own Desktop" is a way of getting woodwork back on the curriculum wax lyrical about it.
    Last edited by Roberto; 11th October 2012 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    What training, experience, advice / guidance (including legal) have the Headteacher and Governors had to be able to make this assessment?
    Are you really suggesting that headteachers, teachers and governors aren't qualified to come up with an adequate educational program to teach about cybersecurity and cyberbullying ?
    Who is then? The LA?

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