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Hiya,
looking at a new rack server to run a small thinclient network.
Would consider a tower if the cost and performance far out weighed a rack server.
But due to space a rack would be preferrable.
Anyone any recommendations of models they use?
Thanks
Define small, and what's your budget?
20 clients
Not sure of budget
Also, what will the clients be running in their sessions? ie. Multimedia stuff or just office and internet?
multimedia etc
We use a HP DL385 G7 for our VDI server hosting 20 VDI images - including thin clients, lics and all hardware cost was ~ £9,000.
At the moment our server uses 4x15k hard drives however will be swapping that out for a SSD soon enough.
I just bought 2 DL360's with 100GB ram dual 6 core xeon for about 4.5k each
What would the software/licences costing be for your setup?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfed
How much for the server?
Thanks
For 20 x thin clients, I'd suggest getting Citrix XenApp - a full XenDesktop type install would be overkill IMO.
A server to handle 20 XenApp clients could be anything basically. An HP DL360 G7 such as this one: HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Performance 579239-421 | Insight UK would be far more than enough to handle it, and give you a massive amount of space for expansion should you want to. One with half the RAM and only 1 CPU would do the trick even.
For XenApp, I believe you're looking at around £150 a license for it.
So, if you speak to a HP reseller directly, you'd probably be able to get that server for about £3k, plus a couple of £15k RPM hard disks. So, total cost about £6.5k.
The latest figures we have had (based around 30 VDI seats) were around-Quote:
Originally Posted by duxbuz
£178/thin client (10zig with 3 yr warranty)
£4220 - HP DL385 G7 - 2x16core AMD Opteron, 80GB RAM, 240GB OCZ PCI-E SSD
£100/VDI lic with upgrade protection for 3 years (£55/VDI lic without any upgrade protection)
Personaly I would mix it in with App-V as well which is dirt cheap from Microsoft.
The VDI software is Citrix VDI-in-a-box and it uses the same HDX protocal as XenApp does.
Is there a lower priced server that would be sufficient, without making my boss throw his hole punch or stapler at me wen I mention the cost?
This is why I mentioned budget earlier. Is the one I listed too expensive?Quote:
Originally Posted by duxbuz
If so, how about one of these? HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Base 579240-421 | Insight UK If you talk to a reseller, you'd probably be able to get that, plus a couple of disks for £2.2k I'd guess.
It has a single CPU and 6GB RAM. For 20 users in XenApp, this would be plenty. If you want VDI, then you'd probably want to add some more RAM and another CPU.
A HP DL165 (1U rack) with 1x12 (2.4ghz) core processor, 44GB RAM and a PCI-E SSD would come to about £2.2k as well - none of this Intel stuff here and it would do full on VDI.
We run our current 20 seats off a 8 core 2.0ghz with 44GB RAM and 4x15k SAS.
I'd be *very* surprised if you could get that at that price. What make SSD? The DL165 doesn't have 6GBPS SATA, so it'd have to be a PCI-E SSD, and the only ones of them I know of at any affordable price would be OCZ, and putting one of them in a server is not something I'd do.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfed
Server cost - £1100Quote:
Originally Posted by localzuk
5x8GB RAM sticks - £575
OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E 3x2 240GB - £400 (we have tested this drive with VDI and are using one in a production enviroment at the moment with no issues what so ever in the past 3 months - OCZ utils are reporting none of the spare blocks have been used yet and the performance is 100x better (random IO) than our 4x15k SAS)
Add in a little extra for a HDD or 2 to boot of and boom £2,200.