I've been to Oriel now and seen their set up. I am mighty impressed. I think you already know that I'm itching to try it here. I do how ever have one problem...
According to the current (Vista Business) Windows EULA, this is not true...
Windows XP = You can use this as gospel; "With SoftXpand you only need 1 license of the operating system per PC." Until Microsoft come up with another brief in the same way they did last year to NComputing, you require only 1 license of the OS - having worked with them to develop Windows 7 compatibility we know this model will continue (until the first 10,000 user deal is announced...!?).
Clasue 2b states
Clause 3b states
Number of Users. Except as provided in the Device Connections and Other Access
Technologies sections below, only one user may use the software at a time.
And worst of all clause e....
Remote Access Technologies. You may access and use the software installed on the
licensed device remotely from another device using remote access technologies as
· Remote Desktop. The single primary user of the licensed device may access a
session from any other device using Remote Desktop or similar technologies. A
“session” means the experience of interacting with the software, directly or indirectly,
through any combination of input, output and display peripherals. Other users may
access a session from any device using these technologies, if the remote device is
separately licensed to run the software.
· Other Access Technologies. You may use Remote Assistance or similar technologies
to share an active session.
e. Multiplexing. Hardware or software you use to
· pool connections, or
· reduce the number of devices or users that directly access or use the software
(sometimes referred to as “multiplexing” or “pooling”), does not reduce the number of
licenses you need.
In short do you have any evidence you can provide us that M$ are supporting this product on a 1 license per miniframe bases?
Microsoft are working with us now & I'll give you an example why. A small Leeds school took 36 workstations last month. 6 copies of Windows, but 36 copies of Office. They wrote to us and said "were it not for SoftXpand we would only have been able to buy 18 PCs". We passed this onto Microsoft. They got 18 additional licenses of Office out of this. Office as we all know is more expensive than Windows.
If not then I can only see three licensing models that will/may allow the use of this product. I'm investigate options 2 and 3 has option 1 is a non-starter...
option 1 - Buy FULL OEM copies at £100 each for each workstation - That's £600 on a 6 station Miniframe - ouch! Remember the schools Select license agreement are upgrade licenses so you NEED THESE ORIGINAL LICENSES BEFORE YOU CAN USE A SCHOOL AGREEMENT LICENSE :eek:
option 2 - Buy 1 FULL OEM copie at £100 and then buy 1 or 2 Vista Enterprise licenses. Vista Enterprise allows up to 4 Virtual Machines run on top of the base install. A 6-8 station Miniframe would thus need 2 Vista Enterprise licenses. I'm currently looking at this through my LAR channels.
Are you getting any where with this? This is actually the most sensible and practical of l the licensing options. This is how I'm licensing the use of nComputing. Does it Work with Windows 2008 Server? If not are the programmers willing to look at getting Win2k8 support so we can stay legal with this product?
Windows Server = I must point out that SoftXpand is not a server solution, the idea is to bring processing power back to the people at the client level, which is why it works so well. The guys are testing it though as I write, overcoming an issue with loading video drivers. We think that it would be more expensive than using Windows XP / 7. However, I'll let you know as soon as I do.