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Hardware Thread, Best external hard drive backup solution? in Technical; Originally Posted by plexer How many schools properly off-site vault their tapes? Probably far too few. The trouble with backups ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    How many schools properly off-site vault their tapes?
    Probably far too few.

    The trouble with backups is they are entirely a waste of time and money ... until you actually need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    QNAP-TS-412

    At this price I'm tempted for getting one for use at home.
    Hmmm .. apologies for a minor hijack .. I've been looking at the HP MicroServer to do the whole home server thing (my current box is sounding less and less happy each day that passes, but it is 6-7 years old or so and runs 24/7) .. so I'm just wondering what people think is best, as obviously the MicroServer has better resources, but the QNap is designed for precisely the thing I want .. hmmm ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    How many schools properly off-site vault their tapes?

    Ben
    HA .. Off Site .. HA .. sorry .. *breathes*

    I've pointed out on a number of occasions that currently, if the servers just fall over then we're covered with the backups I have in place. HOWEVER, should the school burn down, we'll lose EVERYTHING .. I've asked for a fire safe as minimum protection, but that's too expensive apparently ..

    Personally, I weigh that cost agains the cost of losing student and staff work, but I'm not going to be responsible for taking the tapes off site to my own home (something a previous employer once suggested to me as a solution - which when I said "do I get extra pay for this and a safe to put them in at home to comply with data protection they soon changed their minds .. lol)

    I think we're looking now into upping our off site county storage (which SIMS backs up to) as we're merging Curric and Admin networks this summer, so that at least pupil reviews and what not will be remotely backed up, and depending on space issues, we might have an "exam work" folder on there too.

    Being in Nelson, have you thought about looking at the OneConnect remote back up service? Schedules for overnight backups and is scaleable ..

    EDIT: Having said that, I've just seen the costing .. http://www.westfield.lancsngfl.ac.uk...-server-backup GAH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marsdenprimary View Post
    Perhaps if the disks can be removed to a secure and fireproof location every week though- wouldn't this be just as effective?
    But then why not just use tape?

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    @Sovery - you could get together with another local school which will be facing the same issue and keep each others tapes? I figure that if we get a disaster which takes out two schools on opposite sides of town, we probably won't care too much. But I'm reviewing my paranoia levels ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcstru View Post
    @Sovery - you could get together with another local school which will be facing the same issue and keep each others tapes? I figure that if we get a disaster which takes out two schools on opposite sides of town, we probably won't care too much. But I'm reviewing my paranoia levels ...
    True .. we do have a partner school (it's a specialist school, we're the secondary and FE part, the other is the nursery and primary) which is, in fact, across town. I might put it to them, but still, we'd need a safe or something as even though they're a partner school, the head can be paranoid about IT (I recycled about 30 desktops - I had about 15 staff asking whether they could buy one off the school - put it to the head said that I can securely remove any trace of information on there, we can give them an electrical disclaimer - saying that it was last PAT tested on X, but we cannot/willnot accept liability etc .. so instead of getting 50-100 x15 depending on the machine, she said no in case at some point down the line the machines were used for illegal purposes and it would be traced back .. just to give an example of the paranoia we're dealing with here .. lol)

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    Well then... a can o' worms.

    As a continuation of this slight dilemma I wondered what you might think of the following: Synology vs QNAP vs DROBO?

    Which do you think from all of those would be the best backup solution? I'm leaning towards QNAP but i've heard that Drobo uses BeyondRAID or something?
    @soveryapt We use remote backup but just for our admin and SIMS but like you say, the price for any more is shocking.

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    We backup to both tape and HDD, we can go back at least a week by HDD any further by tape. The HDD's are in seperate building, restoring data from HDD is a normally a matter of minutes rather than mucking around having to fetch tapes etc.

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    None of these NAS devices seem to be able to use ZFS, any recommendations for a cheap, low power, server that can fit a load of 3.5" hdds in? 8 should do it.

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