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    From that screenshot it's difficult to say. Technically a 2.5" and 3.5" SATA drive use the same cable, but as you say, it's all about properly mounting it in the case.

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    Thanks for the pics! They are really helpful. The motherboard in that computer is an Intel D845GRG...





    According to the manual for this board, it has two 40-pin IDE (Parallel ATA) connectors for 3.5" hard drives (2.5" HDDs will not work) and supports a maximum of 2GB RAM using 2 x 1GB DDR DIMMs. Based on that information, you are going to need the following items to get the RM One's up-and-running again (assuming no other parts are faulty)...

    1 x 3.5" 7,200rpm IDE / PATA Hard Drive (per computer)
    Code:
    * 250GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 / ST3250820A (£49.98 from Scan)
    * 160GB Western Digital WD1600AAJB Caviar Blue (£47.16 from Scan)
    * 160GB Western Digital WD1600BB Caviar Blue (£16.66 from CCL, £23.99 from Aria)
    * 80GB Western Digital WD800AAJB Caviar Blue (£44.17 from eBuyer)
    2 x 1GB DDR PC3200 DIMMs (per computer)
    Code:
    Crucial - £37.98 (£18.99 each) « This RAM is guaranteed to be compatible with the motherboard above
    Scan - £34.20 (£17.10 each)
    CCL - £31.80 (£15.90 each)
    eBuyer - £28.54 (£14.27 each)
    * All prices exclude VAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    According to the manual for this board, it has two 40-pin IDE (Parallel ATA) connectors for 3.5" hard drives (2.5" HDDs will not work)
    Newegg.com - KINAMAX ADP-IDE23 Laptop 2.5&#34 to Desktop 3.5&#34 IDE Hard Drive Adapter Converter - Adapters & Gender Changers ?

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    I don't know about you, but putting a 2.5" 5,400rpm IDE HDD in an RM PC from 2002 that most likely contains a low-end P4-era Celeron would make me suicidal. Not really an option is it?





    The benchmarks above are from an eight year old 2.5" IDE HDD just to give you an idea of how slow these things are.

    Harry2998 could buy a slightly more modern Samsung HM160HC (the world's fastest IDE laptop HDD), but why bother when his desktop PCs can take 3.5" 7,200rpm HDDs?
    Last edited by Arthur; 18th April 2012 at 04:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    I don't know about you, but putting a 2.5" 5,400rpm IDE HDD in an RM PC from 2002 that most likely contains a low-end P4-era Celeron would make me suicidal. Not really an option is it?
    I never said it was a good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry2998 View Post
    does anyone have any advice as to what sort of hard drives i need?
    As others have pointed out, your machines take 3.5" PATA drives (wedged somewhere under the CD drive and in one of the side compartments, if I remember correctly). The motherboards are probably quite/very slow by today's standard and some seem to have come without RAM. Depending on what, exactly, you plan to use these machines for (or sell them for use as), you could use a flash memory card with an adaptor instead on a harddisk - fast access, low power, no noise, but more limited storage space. These machines probably aren't going to be up to much beyond running Windows XP or a copy of Linux to run a web browser, though, so probably aren't going to be needing that much disk space anyway.

    Another option is to treat them as handy computer cases with integrated screens - get a new motherboard (you can get some good motherboard / CPU / RAM / Windows deals on eBay), a 3.5" SATA harddrive and a copy of Windows 7 and you have yourself a new all-in-one computer. I seem to remember the cases used those annoying star-bit screw heads, so you might want to get a packet or two of standard case screws to replace them with as they tend to get chewed up when removing them.

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    cheers for all the great ideas lads, im going to keep one and give one to my brother, so if anyone wants one, please do let me now, youd obviously have to come pick them up though. haha
    Last edited by harry2998; 27th April 2012 at 11:07 AM.

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    i didnt point out in my last message, i wont want any money for them. so if anyone wants one, let me know

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    That particular model has the hard drive (ATA/133)- ide in the base of the computer (behind the speaker). One side is for the PSU and the other is for the HDD.

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    the hard drives were removed by the people who gave them to me

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