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Hardware Thread, Network Upgrade Needed !!! in Technical; Originally Posted by gshaw Wow 8350GB's... we used to have those... used to have the "pleasure" of sitting next to ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gshaw View Post
    Wow 8350GB's... we used to have those... used to have the "pleasure" of sitting next to them all
    Plus all servers but one are in our office. I feel I have stepped back in time about 5 years.

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    Migarate e-mail to google apps or @edu as this cost nothing.
    Plan the money
    Look at upgrading your internet connection
    Virtualize the servers go for switch SAS storage.
    New network Juniper stuff looks good with stacking.
    Use VDI desktops and thin clients and show how much electricity can be save ask it that can go towards IT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholab View Post
    Migarate e-mail to google apps or @edu as this cost nothing.
    Plan the money
    Look at upgrading your internet connection
    Virtualize the servers go for switch SAS storage.
    New network Juniper stuff looks good with stacking.
    Use VDI desktops and thin clients and show how much electricity can be save ask it that can go towards IT?
    Last time I looked at the Juniper stuff it cost a utter bomb!

    Get your self a couple of DL380 G7 Servers and build them up as a Hyper-V Cluster.

    As I said in my previous post I would make sure the backend (i.e. switching) is up to standard first.
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    I only going on stuff from other edugeekers

    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Another vote for Juniper switches, we replaced our entire network (which was previously Netgear) back in October with Juniper from edge to core, and we have got all the edges on EX2200s of various versions be they PoE or 24 or 48 ports and then have EX4200s in the core, including the 24 port fibre switch the do. The have a lot of features, including 10GBe options on the core (which we have taken for a link to our new lower school campus) so they are well worth your time.

    I have been continually impressed at just how simple this Juniper hardware is, it just works I don't think I've done anything much bar a few VLAN tags since it went in. I have however monitored traffic and been impressed at just how much data we are chucking around and how nothing slows doing it!

    We worked with @Net-Ctrl on the project, and they won the procurement process with the Juniper solution, and they were faced with competition from the following brands - Netgear, HP, Cisco and Extreme, these solutions were offered from various vendors, and based on the feature set required, support, installation and configuration the Juniper deal from Net Ctrl was the best on the table in both long and short term requirements.

    So albeit a lesser heard name, Juniper have been a bit like Extreme in the past hiding in the core of places rather than in the monthly junk mail catalogues, they are certainly worth looking into and using. Without Juniper you wouldn't have Internet its big in the Internet routing, we are certainly converted to them and have been over the moon with the product and what it has done for our network, I was sceptical that a new switching setup could do so much for improving our systems but it did and I was impressed as were the staff upon the return after a week away.

    I know @Soulfish also echos my feeling on Juniper having had them recommended by him to consider as I know he would give his arms and legs to rip out his Cisco and swap it for Juniper in his new school

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    If you got the money go for it people!

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    If I was to replace the entire network, this is what to replace.

    At-9816GB Fibre switch
    1x 3com 2948
    1 x AT8326GB
    10 x At-8350GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalls001 View Post
    If I was to replace the entire network, this is what to replace.

    At-9816GB Fibre switch
    1x 3com 2948
    1 x AT8326GB
    10 x At-8350GB
    I would replace the 3com, and the AT8326GB and At-8350GB with 2910's and something reliable at the core in a stack able configuration perhaps the 5500G series?

    Although Juniper kit is nice and good quality kit but depends on cost at the end of the day

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    can I also wade into the discussion and sit in the ' upgrade the infrastructure, worry about the servers later' camp, with a +1 for the HP Procurve kit. With a particular +1 to the 5400zl (but check your SD cards folks!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaktech View Post
    can I also wade into the discussion and sit in the ' upgrade the infrastructure, worry about the servers later' camp, with a +1 for the HP Procurve kit. With a particular +1 to the 5400zl (but check your SD cards folks!)
    I love my two 5400zl but I think in this case it is overkill and probably too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    I love my two 5400zl but I think in this case it is overkill and probably too expensive.
    i don't know... 1 for a core switch doesn't say 'overkill', its says 'expandable'

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    I can get Juniper switches "cheap" if any one wants to go through me as I'm a Juniper partner, the Juniper EX2200 switch is awesome!! I think it's around about the 700 mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaktech View Post
    i don't know... 1 for a core switch doesn't say 'overkill', its says 'expandable'
    Its very expandable and versatile (which is why I have two! although the second hasn't gone into production yet), Its just in the case of for such a small network (sub 400 devices) and small budget.

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    If anyone wants needs servers we are partners for IBM and Oracle, and partners for Juniper so anybody needs anything let me know.

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    +1 here for ProCurve

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    Also consider what you could do to divide you physical space up between you and the servers i.e. could a partition wall be install in you office space. My personnel view it should be possible to run all schools in 42u of rack space.
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