+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 25 of 25
Hardware Thread, Setting up a SAN in Technical; Originally Posted by AButters OK. IMHO you'd probably get better value buying a Dell through the welsh purchasing agreement. I ...
  1. #16

    garethedmondson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Gowerton, Swansea
    Posts
    2,259
    Thank Post
    962
    Thanked 324 Times in 192 Posts
    Blog Entries
    11
    Rep Power
    164
    Quote Originally Posted by AButters View Post
    OK. IMHO you'd probably get better value buying a Dell through the welsh purchasing agreement. I am going all dell now through my LEA via the welsh agreement as frankly the hardware prices are too god to be true!!!

    My 2p.
    I've PM'ed you

  2. #17

    sonofsanta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Posts
    4,829
    Thank Post
    840
    Thanked 1,399 Times in 962 Posts
    Blog Entries
    47
    Rep Power
    603
    With ten drives I'd be more tempted by RAID 6 - I've gone that way on my SAN. Even with a hot spare available for RAID 5 you still have a window during that rebuild where a second failure will knacker you. RAID 6 could survive that (unlikely) second failure and may help you rest easier at night.

    /waits to be proven wrong on write performance or something

  3. #18

    localzuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Minehead
    Posts
    17,529
    Thank Post
    513
    Thanked 2,406 Times in 1,862 Posts
    Blog Entries
    24
    Rep Power
    822
    I'd be tempted with RAID 10 personally.

  4. #19

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    572
    Thank Post
    38
    Thanked 114 Times in 104 Posts
    Rep Power
    46
    I would've said RAID10 - although having a Cached RAID card will provide some assistance with IOPs (to a certain point). If you're mainly using it for VMs, then RAID10 would be your best bet - go for as high random IOPs as you can get.

  5. #20
    Duke's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    1,017
    Thank Post
    300
    Thanked 174 Times in 160 Posts
    Rep Power
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by garethedmondson View Post
    I've been warned away from Dell on here as they fail.
    That's a very sweeping statement and I'm surprised you've heard it...

    For storage RAID6, for performance RAID10 (IMO).

    Chris

  6. #21

    garethedmondson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Gowerton, Swansea
    Posts
    2,259
    Thank Post
    962
    Thanked 324 Times in 192 Posts
    Blog Entries
    11
    Rep Power
    164
    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    That's a very sweeping statement and I'm surprised you've heard it...

    For storage RAID6, for performance RAID10 (IMO).

    Chris
    I read on here that some had had problems with Dell servers. I'll try and find the post - but it could be a needle in a haystack. As it happens at 10:15 this morning all funding was pulled back in. Frmo having some funds last night to having nothing this morning. Quite fed up at the moment.

    Months of work down the drain.

    Gareth

  7. #22
    Duke's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    1,017
    Thank Post
    300
    Thanked 174 Times in 160 Posts
    Rep Power
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by garethedmondson View Post
    I read on here that some had had problems with Dell servers. I'll try and find the post - but it could be a needle in a haystack. As it happens at 10:15 this morning all funding was pulled back in. Frmo having some funds last night to having nothing this morning. Quite fed up at the moment.

    Months of work down the drain.
    For what it's worth, there's lots of people in the same boat. I know someone who's had their virtualisation plans go back to management about five times because they keep changing their mind on funding. Keeping pushing it and explaining to management that it's a system you need if the school is going to grow at a healthy rate. If this becomes part of your network redundancy systems (failover, disaster recovery, etc.), then phrase it as a 'can you afford not to' buy it question.

    Re: Dell - I'm sure plenty of people have had bad experiences, but I'd argue there's even more who have had good experiences. Find yourself a good reseller (CCS Media) so you don't have to deal direct, and the hardware is excellent. NetApp are a top-tier storage provider but I've had bad experiences with their kit, and some people swear by HP support whereas I can't stand them. Swings and roundabouts.

    Chris

  8. #23

    garethedmondson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Gowerton, Swansea
    Posts
    2,259
    Thank Post
    962
    Thanked 324 Times in 192 Posts
    Blog Entries
    11
    Rep Power
    164
    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    For what it's worth, there's lots of people in the same boat. I know someone who's had their virtualisation plans go back to management about five times because they keep changing their mind on funding. Keeping pushing it and explaining to management that it's a system you need if the school is going to grow at a healthy rate. If this becomes part of your network redundancy systems (failover, disaster recovery, etc.), then phrase it as a 'can you afford not to' buy it question.

    Re: Dell - I'm sure plenty of people have had bad experiences, but I'd argue there's even more who have had good experiences. Find yourself a good reseller (CCS Media) so you don't have to deal direct, and the hardware is excellent. NetApp are a top-tier storage provider but I've had bad experiences with their kit, and some people swear by HP support whereas I can't stand them. Swings and roundabouts.

    Chris
    Thanks Chris.

    I'm off now to have a bacon,sausage and egg baguette. First one in ages but it will make me feel a bit better. LOL.

    Gareth

  9. #24
    Duke's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    1,017
    Thank Post
    300
    Thanked 174 Times in 160 Posts
    Rep Power
    57
    Quote Originally Posted by garethedmondson View Post
    I'm off now to have a bacon,sausage and egg baguette. First one in ages but it will make me feel a bit better. LOL.
    Good plan, keep smiling.

  10. #25

    garethedmondson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Gowerton, Swansea
    Posts
    2,259
    Thank Post
    962
    Thanked 324 Times in 192 Posts
    Blog Entries
    11
    Rep Power
    164
    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Good plan, keep smiling.
    All sorted now. Half the funding has been given so I've had to re-jig. The virtualisation project has been put on hold (this was the first half of the funding). The second half is going ahead but the whole project has been agreed by the Governors. Virtualisation will now happen at 6 months.

    It gives me time to look at other stuff I suppose.

    Regards and thanks everyone for their help,

    Gareth

  11. Thanks to garethedmondson from:

    Duke (2nd April 2012)

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. Setting up home wireless network with MAC and PC..?
    By tosca925 in forum General Chat
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 21st November 2011, 04:39 PM
  2. Setting up mapping and Lun on HP MSA SAN
    By ranj in forum Hardware
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 31st August 2010, 06:40 PM
  3. Setting up a new network
    By wesleyw in forum How do you do....it?
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 12th March 2007, 09:57 AM
  4. Setting up test scenario on Server 2003/Active Directory/GPO
    By tosca925 in forum How do you do....it?
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 24th January 2006, 11:38 AM
  5. Setting up NAT using IPTABLES
    By ChrisH in forum *nix
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 9th November 2005, 01:54 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •