Hardware Thread, Colour printer vs Photocopier in Technical; Following a meeting last week, the topic of colour laser printer usage costs came up - and a suggestion was ...
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21st May 2007, 01:00 PM #1
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Colour printer vs Photocopier
Following a meeting last week, the topic of colour laser printer usage costs came up - and a suggestion was made to shift users from printing to colour laser printer to colour photocopier.
Apparently this will cut costs by a great deal.
What do you use? Colour laser or Colour photocopier? The plan would be to network the colour photocopier, and teachers (and selected students) can send jobs to it, similar to the current set up with the HP 4600's.
Collating scary figures at the moment....
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21st May 2007, 01:07 PM #2 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
Are you talking about leasing the photocopier rather than buying it outright?
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21st May 2007, 01:09 PM #3 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
I take the more pragmatic approach of : I don't have to fix the photocopiers or have anything to do with the cost of toners for them, ergo, they're much better than seeing the colour laser printers being hammered and me fixing them every day!
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21st May 2007, 01:18 PM #4
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Well if the school has a colour photocopier any way then why not. We do that here and have a hplj 4650. I dread to think how oftern the toner in the printer would need replacing without the photocopier.
As photocopying is charged to departments and toner comes out of a different budget I'm happy
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21st May 2007, 01:22 PM #5
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Yes, leasing them for a short time initially to see the benefits if any.
We can phone the supplier for toner at any time too, which would be of benefit during periods of heavy use. (read: all the time!)
You're lucky not having to touch photocopiers, I get asked to photocopy work for staff members, and fix paper jams etc even though I am an ICT Technician (by job title at least).
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21st May 2007, 01:25 PM #6
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We use colour laser printers here 1 A3 and the rest A4. although its a bugga when one needs repairing, as it often means spending the same amount of money repairing as to replacing... If that makes sence
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21st May 2007, 01:54 PM #7 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
we lease our machines as part of a service contract and that works very well. we use reflex, although i'm sure other good suppliers exist.
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21st May 2007, 02:43 PM #8 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
I have been badgering SLT for 3 years to go with everybody printing to reprographics with a focus on the rack it, stack it and pack it theme.
Everyone has access via pin number allocated to their subject, they can set it up via their own log in to do whatever they want and can even gain access to it remotely. Costs so far for 5% coverage colour is about 5pence per sheet. At the moment the admin do reprographcs (mono) and costs are not bad but for colour they print from HP 4600n at cost of 12pence per 5% coverage per sheet.
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21st May 2007, 08:53 PM #9 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
I push the colour copier all the way, its cheaper to run than the 4600's and when it breaks I spend 5 minutes looking at it then pick the phone up, much better way of working.
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21st May 2007, 10:49 PM #10 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
We use the colour copier way of doing things for the majority of stuff. We have a couple of colour lasers (Epson multifunction things) in the library and front reception as it makes life easier to do it that way.
The problem with centralised printing is that if it goes down, you are stuck. When our photocopier breaks all hell breaks loose.
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22nd May 2007, 05:32 AM #11 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
We only have 2 colour lasers in school. One in Art and the other in the main office.
If any other colour printing needs to be done they use the colour copier. It's a Toshiba and has a handy feature - When staff press print they have to enter there given department code. This way all the bills are totted up ready with no extra hassle for the reprographics girl.
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22nd May 2007, 10:58 PM #12 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
Thats what I love, but I don't allow the popup on screen, they go into an Invalid Queue on the copier and then they release them directly on the machine, means that students dont need to see the code.
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23rd May 2007, 07:01 AM #13
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Hi
We lease a canon 3170c which is networked - costs about 6.8p a copy for colour. Having a look now at 4600 use and see how it compares. All staff use the pin system and the printer driver also includes user management so you can set different print and copy settings as well - has helped to keep both photocopying and printing use down. Only drawback is that the ccanon is more prone to ( like all copiers) and only knocks out 6ppm - the 4600 is much faster both ppm and first page out. Will be interesting to see how it compares in the long run.
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23rd May 2007, 07:59 AM #14 Re: Colour printer vs Photocopier
ATOM - we have a canon 5800i which does 15ppm colour, the only issue we have with it is that it exhibits all the symptoms of an old colour copier. Streaking, lack of colour uniformity etc... This is likely down to a misconfiguration by the service technicians but it is still annoying all the same.
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23rd May 2007, 08:28 AM #15
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We are only a smallish primary so anything bigger would be a bit prohibative- quality is good though - we have access to run the calibration set up - presume yours would have the same?
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