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    New PC

    Currently Looking at getting myself a new pc - looking along the lines of below - what do people think?

    Mainly use it for running vm's and the like - not really a gamer though.

    AMD Phenpm II X6 Six-Core (1100T) 3.3GHz Proc
    ASUS SKT-AM3+ M5A88-V EVO S/V/L
    Corsair Dominator 8192MB (2x4096MB) Memory Module
    RADEON HD 6750 1GB
    Antec EarthWatts EA-650 Green - Power supply ( ...
    OCZ 120GB Vertex 2E SSD - Solid State Drive
    Western Digital Cavier Green 1TB SATA 32MB
    Antec Sonata Elite Super Mini Tower (Black)

    What do people think - any recommendations alterations?

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    Don't get the Green range of WD HDDs I've not read nice things about them, stick to the Blue or Black range instead.

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    Or the RE4 enterprise range

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    Ill look into them - the enterprise disks might be a good shout - got a whole load of them at worldm sms they are rock solid.

    Anything else?

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    Also im not fussed on that case anybody recommend one?

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    Fractal cases are pretty neat, lots of sound proofing etc as standard.

    Why bother with an AMD cpu? I would love to support AMD but their CPUs are garbage compared to Intel; also your better off getting a higher speed CPU that has less cores, at some point programmers will catch up with multi-threading but if the cores are weak anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    AMD Phenom II X6 Six-Core (1100T) 3.3GHz Proc
    With AMDs new Bulldozer processors being released next month (click here for a list of models), you would have to be mad to buy an AMD CPU now.

    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    Asus SKT-AM3+ M5A88-V EVO S/V/L
    Unless you need the additional PCI Express slots, I would choose a mATX motherboard since this would enable you to get a smaller case. e.g. M5A88-M EVO

    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    Radeon HD 6750 1GB
    If you aren't going to play games, the integrated graphics (Radeon HD 4250) will be fine and the money saved could be put towards another 8GB RAM for a total of 16GB (4x4GB).

    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    Western Digital Cavier Green 1TB SATA 32MB
    As others have said, don't bother with the WD Green drives.

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    If you aren't going to play games, the integrated graphics (Radeon HD 4250) will be fine and the money saved could be put towards another 8GB RAM for a total of 16GB (4x4GB).

    Sorry should bacs mentioned - going to be doing video editing add the likes so need a decent graphics card.

    Ill lookup the bulldozer range - are they doing to be am3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    I'll lookup the Bulldozer range - are they doing to be AM3?
    Bulldozer will be AM3+. The Asus motherboard you selected above will be compatible, but may require a BIOS update when the new processors are officially released.

    Edit. For the sake of an extra 10 I would get the Asus M5A99X EVO (990FX chipset) as this is guaranteed to be compatible with AMDs forthcoming eight-core FX-81x0 processors.
    Last edited by Arthur; 15th August 2011 at 11:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Bulldozer will be AM3+. The Asus motherboard you selected above will be compatible, but may require a BIOS update when the new processors are officially released.
    awesome will look them up

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    Would reiterate most of what Arthur has said, regarding the GPU especially. I've heard about Bulldozer, but I'm not completely up to date with the current market so I cannot comment.

    I would add that the PSU that you've selected is complete overkill. Even a good(Corsair 80+ 35) 400watt PSU would be loads for that PC (as long as you weren't planning on upgrading the GPU at later date)

    I see you had specced 8GB's of RAM in your initial post and others are talking about upgrading that to 16GB!!! Personally I've never needed more than 4GB, anything over 6GB will probably never be used unless of course you're doing some specific task which will make use of it, generally it would be a waste.

    On Intel vs. AMD, in laptops it's very hard to have a reason to go with AMD unless you're looking for a cheap gaming laptop with Llano, but with desktops AMD are very very competitive and often better value when you consider it's price/performance


    In terms of a case, just get something for about 40, avoid a case with lots of plastics and lights at that price with a couple of fans and dust filters hopefully
    See something you like, then google it and see what the reviews of it are.
    7350041080565 Fractal Design Core 1000 Case

    I can't find many reviews of the case, but it seems like something that could work for you and tbh, I really quite like the way it looks in all black. I wouldn't call it sleek, but it's pretty raw and would get the job done

    Core 1000 Computer Case

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    I need 8gb ram as min minimum as running multiple vm's at home - remember server 2008 r2 doesn't run great enless its got more then 2gb ram - which it will eat easily and then running more then 1 of them at a time thats 4 gb gone! i also run my vm web servers at home for testing hence the reason for 8gb.

    When comparing the amd to intel I7 is alot more expensive top of the range when compared to the AMD - i've purchased a few of the 1100T 6 core procs for friends and they are great
    i'm looking at the fractal cases at the moment as the one above the one you mention looks really good

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    I'd also suggest 16GB, for virtualisation it is probably the first area that will become a constraint, I'd also keep the decent PSU, something with 80-85%+ certification as they are more efficient and when they are not heavily loaded run cooler, last longer and provide more stable power for a longer lasting, more stable PC. Putting a cheap PSU in is like buying budget tires for a ferrari and expecting it to hold the road well.

    As to the CPU's one thing that might be worth looking gor is VT-d support which can do some quite cool things with virtualisation. It allows you to redirect hardware from the physical machine to a VM so with a couple of GPUs and VMWare you could run an extra VM with direct access to a GPU and assisoated ports on the back, couple this with USB port mapping and you should be able to make it into two or more distinct computers for testing which at there core are actually VMs running off the one machine. I think that AMD has this extention now but it is called AMD-Vi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#Intel_virtualization_.28VT-x.29 you'll need a motherboard that supports it though.
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    I think the op knows all about the importance of good power supplies considering choosing an Antec Earthwatts in the original spec, it is very important to get a high efficiency and reliable PSU, but there's no point in getting more watts than you would ever need.

    corsair 400watt - Google Search

    This PSU is amazing value for what it is and will offer more than enough power for the ops machine

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