+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 30 of 30
Hardware Thread, Server Recommendation Please in Technical; Thanks for the input everyone. Some of the Dell machines mention Windows Storage Server 2003 Express - I'm aware of ...
  1. #16
    altecsole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Whittington, Lancashire
    Posts
    286
    Thank Post
    40
    Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts
    Rep Power
    26

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Thanks for the input everyone. Some of the Dell machines mention Windows Storage Server 2003 Express - I'm aware of Storage Server 2003, but not the Express edition. Anyone know what this is?

    Also, one possibility I discussed with a colleague would be to run a box with Storage Server 2003 with a Raid 1 array. We could then move all our critical user data to this server. I'd like to try and simplify the setup that we have at the moment. As with most things IT, the servers have grown as the school network has grown. We have 4 DCs, all with SCSI but none with any kind of RAID. User data is spread across a couple of them, with Exchange on another and ISA on another. To me (who only started here a few weeks ago) it's a potential problems that needs addressing. We are committed to buying a new server; does my suggestion sound reasonable? Any advice gratefully received - my last school was a single server NT 4 domain where backup fitted on a single tape cassette!

  2. #17
    ChrisH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    East Lancs
    Posts
    5,007
    Thank Post
    124
    Thanked 286 Times in 263 Posts
    Rep Power
    109

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    I think the main difference between the Storage server version is the Express version does not support external drives.

  3. #18

    john's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10,447
    Thank Post
    1,537
    Thanked 1,069 Times in 934 Posts
    Rep Power
    305

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    I use HP Proliants - DL380 and ML370's. Just got 4 G4 DL380's, seem nice, just need eardefenders to be in the same room as them

  4. #19

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    51°44’45.75”N 2°13’57.28”W With 182ft Elevation
    Posts
    35
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Hi like john we use HP Proliants -ML350 G3 (have three of them) and (one of them) G4 which are great and are noisy but do the job perfectly would definatly recommend them. they are great because you can have the basic model for upgrade it to what spec you need, you can also have hardware raid controller in it if you want for software raid through windows personally recommend hardware raid

    Nutt

  5. #20

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Corby
    Posts
    1,056
    Thank Post
    12
    Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Historically our school has bought built to order CSE servers- until I started working there. We have since shifted to Dell PowerEdge servers and never had a problem at all.

    As others have mentioned, HP are a good make too- what you should normally think of is support structure (that's why we don't buy off CSE anymore ;-)

    Paul

  6. #21

    Ric_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    7,601
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 771 Times in 599 Posts
    Rep Power
    183

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    I have 10 Sun servers (lovely) and an EMC SAN All were good value and seem to be doing the trick.

  7. #22

    john's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10,447
    Thank Post
    1,537
    Thanked 1,069 Times in 934 Posts
    Rep Power
    305

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Support is a big thing, and touch wood the servers from HP never fail, but HP support are the pitts! I thought Dell was terrible, but trust me HP are the worst ever! My advice is never puchase an upgraded care pack from the standard 1-3 days as HP never meet the 24 hr turn around or the better levels.

  8. #23

    SpuffMonkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    2,268
    Thank Post
    55
    Thanked 285 Times in 191 Posts
    Rep Power
    136

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    Remember though, if you just need to increase the storage space for your existing servers a SAN may be better - this will alllow block-level access which means you can pop your databases on there, along with Exchange, etc. plus share out files.
    Hi - I'm just being gifted a SAN box (IBM DS400) (lucky me ) - any advice on the best sort of setup for it - it'll be carrying dbs, Exchange and everyone files - cheers

  9. #24
    tarquel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Powys, Mid-Wales, UK
    Posts
    1,740
    Thank Post
    13
    Thanked 45 Times in 35 Posts
    Rep Power
    30

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    good to see fellow Proliant ML350 users

    Going (i think) for a HP Proliant ML150 G2:

    http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpr...t_id=HPIA041B7
    (cant remember the exact one as there are a few listed but the model is the same)

    with 1GB RAM, 2 x 80GB SATA, Adaptec RAID SATA-2 controller, and some other bits and bobs i forget too, for our Exchange 2k3 email box (should be just the ticket as theres only 300 pupils & 50 staff so this should be ideal (i hope/pray).

    Looking forward to access work email from home (yes, I'm sad like that lol)

    Regards
    Nath

  10. #25

    Ric_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    7,601
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 771 Times in 599 Posts
    Rep Power
    183

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    @Targuel: Fell out with Insight since they didn't deliver when they promised (in fact I cancelled the order and reordered from elsewhere who delivered it the next day) - hence Insight lost a £4500 order. Messed me about for 3 weeks!!! :angry:

    @SpuffMonkey: Good to see that others have seen the light and are buying SANs rather than nasty overpriced NAS-boxes

  11. #26
    tarquel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Powys, Mid-Wales, UK
    Posts
    1,740
    Thank Post
    13
    Thanked 45 Times in 35 Posts
    Rep Power
    30

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Shame ric - i've never myself had a problem with them.

    Unfortunately, its all courier permitting i'd say lol [unless you paid extra for a definate next day]

    I thankfully have never had to return a item i've placed thats been the wrong one [only when its the wrong one when either the distribution point has messed up or account manager put down the wrong one lol]

    The ict co-ordinator moans why I only use them i hear, but he doesnt do any quoting anymore - except for getting these compatible toners for some of the printers [my poor lovely hp machines]

    sorry /rant

    Nath,.

  12. #27

    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    dundee
    Posts
    197
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    http://www.nec-online.co.uk/product/...Id_ProDis=3591

    i use an nec-Select TW100, very reliable, very good value for money. Dell poweredge servers are also very reliable (but don't touch their workstations). hp servers are over-rated in my opinion and annoyingly noisy.

  13. #28
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,505
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 508 Times in 445 Posts
    Rep Power
    116

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    I have 10 Sun servers (lovely) and an EMC SAN All were good value and seem to be doing the trick.
    Which EMC? I've just got a CX300 with a Dell 1855 Blade Center (with 6 Blades). I'm using it to run VMware ESX server (with a virtualcenter managment server - also does the backup to a lto library).

    I'm about to start building virtual machines for production, I'll have to let you know how it goes

    6 Months ago I knew nothing about SANs, now I get told off by Dell for doing my own flare upgrade :P

    David

    Edit: Spelling - typing in the dark at open evening

  14. #29

    Ric_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    7,601
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 771 Times in 599 Posts
    Rep Power
    183

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    @DMcCoy: Nothing as fancy as that I'm afraid - just a plain old AX100

    That's one seriously fancy setup that you have going there (although I wouldn't have bought all that stuff off Dell )

  15. #30
    DMcCoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Isle of Wight
    Posts
    3,505
    Thank Post
    10
    Thanked 508 Times in 445 Posts
    Rep Power
    116

    Re: Server Recommendation Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    @DMcCoy: Nothing as fancy as that I'm afraid - just a plain old AX100

    That's one seriously fancy setup that you have going there (although I wouldn't have bought all that stuff off Dell )
    Well, I'm not happy with my old compaqs and IBM didn't even respond.

    Dell came to visit, and gave me a nice discount due to wanting a reference as they didn't have any other schools running ESX. I've had the servers for 6 months but implementation has been delayed due to needing to find a high capacity power source for the server room and installing air conditioning. I've worked everything out now though, just need to build the VMs and I'm done.



SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. Switch Recommendation
    By Ste_Harve in forum Wireless Networks
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 8th July 2007, 09:06 PM
  2. I need a laptop recommendation
    By beeswax in forum Recommended Suppliers
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 2nd July 2007, 08:22 PM
  3. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 18th June 2007, 12:21 AM
  4. Camcorder for SEN school recommendation
    By deeplyconfused in forum Hardware
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 26th April 2007, 04:45 PM
  5. Replies: 15
    Last Post: 28th September 2006, 10:13 AM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •