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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Quote Originally Posted by john
    DMC I like the HP stuff but its sooooooooooooooooo overpriced in my view, what does that HP cabinet, thats closer to 1K, do and have than the others mentioned here, that are around the 400-500 area, don't have?
    A HP badge?


    It is a 47u too which can add considerably to the price compared to a 42u.

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Dabs have HP ones for around £650...

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    A HP badge?


    It is a 47u too which can add considerably to the price compared to a 42u.
    True, the 47U's do make a strange price difference, but it really isn't justifyable is it?

    http://www.millsltd.com/productDetai...artNo=X06-7330 is the type I have used in the past and are perfect for the job

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Quote Originally Posted by john
    DMC I like the HP stuff but its sooooooooooooooooo overpriced in my view, what does that HP cabinet, thats closer to 1K, do and have than the others mentioned here, that are around the 400-500 area, don't have?
    I've used a few other cabinets in the past, and find that some aren't really 1m deep (I have some rack components that are 1m from front to back). My old prism cabinet ended up with bent rails from the old apc mounts (no rails). The hp ones are very tough. I have a similary priced Dell rack too, although that was part of an order.

    The first one I had is actually branded as Compaq, and came with new compaq servers - I liked it so much I got a second.

    The price difference to a prism is only around £200. Can they hold 900Kg?

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Quote Originally Posted by john
    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    A HP badge?


    It is a 47u too which can add considerably to the price compared to a 42u.
    True, the 47U's do make a strange price difference, but it really isn't justifyable is it?

    http://www.millsltd.com/productDetai...artNo=X06-7330 is the type I have used in the past and are perfect for the job
    Ah, thats only 800mm deep, no good for me

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    I went with Cooper B-Line Access cabinets
    http://www.mayflex.com/mayflexcatalo...G-CABINETS.htm

    although as they came pre-assembled on pallets I too had to dismantle them to get them up a flight of stairs to the server room.

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Does it matter what width the cabinet is?
    Are there any benefits to having an 800mm one over a 600m?

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Quote Originally Posted by Midget
    Does it matter what width the cabinet is?
    Are there any benefits to having an 800mm one over a 600m?
    You can fit deeper servers in them. This is only really an issue with the big 1u/2u slimline servers though.

    Alternatively it gives you more room for power distribution and cabling.

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    how does the width effect how deep a server can be?

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Quote Originally Posted by Midget
    how does the width effect how deep a server can be?
    Theres 3 measurements to consider width, depth and height.

    I thought the width was standard, otherwise stuff wouldnt fit, and it was only the depth that changes.......

    Obviously any panelling doors etc would change width slightly but surely the internals have to be the same.

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    The width is a standard 19 inches (482.6mm).
    The height depends on the number of 'u's. 1u is 1.75 inches (44.45). There are several 'standard' sizes of rack height ranging from 8u all the way up to 47u.
    There is no set standard on rack depth but 400mm, 600mm and 800mm are common. Extra space is usually factored in for power distribution and general cabling.

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    I know, which is why I'm looking at 42u height, 1000mm depth, however I have the choice of 600mm wide and 800mm wide, is there any reason what so ever why I should consider the extra for the wide cabinet

    the millimeter measurements are external btw

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    Re: Server Cabinets

    As my father once said to me about being married: -

    "You'll always be in the sh*t, its just the depth that varies"


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    Re: Server Cabinets

    Wider cabs have cable management systems down the front/side of the cab. Mainly needed if your using it for telephony or networking infrastructure.

    If you've just got a rack full of servers, I wouldn't bother with the cable management.

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