+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 28
Hardware Thread, Face plates - QUOTE? places to buy? in Technical; Well the pac tester is in and is failing every machine with a face plate missing!!!! he will only pass ...
  1. #1
    RichB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    A Nice School
    Posts
    388
    Thank Post
    138
    Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts
    Rep Power
    56

    Exclamation Face plates - QUOTE? places to buy?

    Well the pac tester is in and is failing every machine with a face plate missing!!!! he will only pass them if i get an order raised and a del date today! and had planned on going home now as its the Holiday!


    Anyone know where to buy Dell 755 cd and floppy face plates? or if anyone on here can get me a quote?

    Cheers

  2. #2

    powdarrmonkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Alcester, Warwickshire
    Posts
    4,859
    Thank Post
    412
    Thanked 777 Times in 650 Posts
    Rep Power
    182
    The tester is an idiot, tell him so (and, while you're at it, ask why they are a fail. I like a good laugh).

  3. #3
    p858snake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Queensland
    Posts
    1,490
    Thank Post
    37
    Thanked 175 Times in 151 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2
    Rep Power
    51
    ask him where they are failing under the guidelines?

    Probably could try a second hand computer place and try and see if they have any from scrapped machines (even if they are the wrong colour), but don't the opticplex 755 only have a cd/dvd drive and a floppy on the front.Just get second hand cd drives (even broken ones) and just stick in there and don't connect them.

  4. #4

    plexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norfolk
    Posts
    13,273
    Thank Post
    614
    Thanked 1,567 Times in 1,407 Posts
    Rep Power
    412
    I would have though that due to the fact that all voltages accessible within the chassis of a computer a 12v or less then it wouldn't fail? If it was possible to stick your hand in the PSU itself that would be a different issue?

    Ben

  5. #5

    Andrew_C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Winchester
    Posts
    2,955
    Thank Post
    64
    Thanked 374 Times in 284 Posts
    Rep Power
    158
    He's an idiot, no doubt. If you HAVE to patch, much easier to get a sheet of plastic from Design & Tech, chop it up and glue it in place.

  6. #6
    RichB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    A Nice School
    Posts
    388
    Thank Post
    138
    Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts
    Rep Power
    56
    He was very clear that if the kids could stick there hands inside the pc (which they can) they could get a shock so it's a fail! Anyone for 100% know any different? Because in the last week we have had over 150 face plates go missing!? So could not get him a delivery so he failed 150 pcs it's clear I won't use him again... If the head agrees! but now says he'll charge to come back and pass! And he is not cheap!

    Spoke to dell and they want to charge 3 per plate that's ALOT would use a sheet of plastic and stick them over but we may be putting cd drives and tricky to just cover floppy drive on these models!

    Any got anything to fightthe guy back with? Or know anywhere to get the plates? Did think of taking the plates out of the passed ones but he's a clever tester lol

  7. #7

    Andrew_C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Winchester
    Posts
    2,955
    Thank Post
    64
    Thanked 374 Times in 284 Posts
    Rep Power
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    they could get a shock so it's a fail!

    but he's a clever tester lol
    That proves he's not. Is the metal chassis intact? Could you glue something to that?

  8. #8
    mounters's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Northumberland
    Posts
    199
    Thank Post
    22
    Thanked 70 Times in 59 Posts
    Rep Power
    28
    On our Dells that have had faceplates go missing we get D&T to make us up some blanks from perspex to fit the gaps and then glue these into the cases as well. We also proactively glue the Dell faceplates in now using a hot glue gun and lots of glue makes the fronts almost impossible to push in. However, should we need to remove the faceplates for any reson then you can remove the glue from the inside quite easily.

  9. #9

    powdarrmonkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Alcester, Warwickshire
    Posts
    4,859
    Thank Post
    412
    Thanked 777 Times in 650 Posts
    Rep Power
    182
    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    He was very clear that if the kids could stick there hands inside the pc (which they can) they could get a shock so it's a fail!
    He is a fail, not the PC.

    The case is earthed for a reason. The PSU is electrically isolated from the mains and provides only a maximum of 12V to the processor, which is not a hazardous level. The cables near the front of the case are between 3 and 5V - same as you'd get if you stuck a paperclip in the front of a USB port. The whole arrangement is earthed through the case's connection with the PSU.

    A PAT tests for a number of things, amongst others:
    - case or structural damage that could expose high voltage live parts (the faceplate is not an integral part of the structure, nor does it expose high voltage live parts)
    - earth bond from the exposed metal of the chassis
    - fuse, polarity and electrical continuity
    - insulation and isolation of live parts from the chassis

    It does not test against small children stick their grubby fingers inside a deliberately manufactured gap in the plastic fascia.



    but now says he'll charge to come back and pass! And he is not cheap!
    You astound me. This is blatantly a money-maker - he's in for a killing if he can fail 150 devices *and* manage to get the work to come back and test them again in a few weeks.

    Any got anything to fightthe guy back with?
    Ask him to show you in his copy of the Code of Practice which section it fails under. Bet he doesn't have one.
    Last edited by powdarrmonkey; 23rd July 2010 at 08:57 PM.

  10. #10
    mpe
    mpe is offline

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Exeter
    Posts
    1,101
    Thank Post
    104
    Thanked 65 Times in 57 Posts
    Rep Power
    33
    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    Well the pac tester
    Do you you mean PAT (or possibly PrAT) tester?

    is in and is failing every machine with a face plate missing!!!! he will only pass them if i get an order raised and a del date today!
    Who is he employed by? If he's a contractor might be a good idea to find out exactly what he was contracted to do.

    Anyone know where to buy Dell 755 cd and floppy face plates? or if anyone on here can get me a quote?
    What do you mean by a "faceplate"?

    You should check out http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg236.pdf especially page 5.

  11. #11
    mpe
    mpe is offline

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Exeter
    Posts
    1,101
    Thank Post
    104
    Thanked 65 Times in 57 Posts
    Rep Power
    33
    Quote Originally Posted by p858snake View Post
    ask him where they are failing under the guidelines?
    Or even which guidelines they are testing under in the first place.

  12. #12
    RichB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    A Nice School
    Posts
    388
    Thank Post
    138
    Thanked 48 Times in 36 Posts
    Rep Power
    56
    DAMAGED STRUCTURE he is saying? really do not know anything about the PAT testing but will ask him the questions.... Got DT knocking up some plates at the moment but he has already failed them!

  13. #13

    Andrew_C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Winchester
    Posts
    2,955
    Thank Post
    64
    Thanked 374 Times in 284 Posts
    Rep Power
    158
    Bounce the whole question up to whoever contracted him to do the job. I'd be using words like "fool, incompetent, and money-grabbing" in my discussions.

  14. #14

    powdarrmonkey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Alcester, Warwickshire
    Posts
    4,859
    Thank Post
    412
    Thanked 777 Times in 650 Posts
    Rep Power
    182
    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    DAMAGED STRUCTURE he is saying?
    The face plate is not structural.

  15. #15
    mpe
    mpe is offline

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Exeter
    Posts
    1,101
    Thank Post
    104
    Thanked 65 Times in 57 Posts
    Rep Power
    33
    Quote Originally Posted by RichB View Post
    He was very clear that if the kids could stick there hands inside the pc (which they can) they could get a shock so it's a fail! Anyone for 100% know any different?
    The Heath and Safety at Work act applies only to employees. Also PAT testing does not apply to SELV (under 50V) the only part of a PC which could possibly need such testing is the PSU.

    Because in the last week we have had over 150 face plates go missing!? So could not get him a delivery so he failed 150 pcs it's clear I won't use him again...
    A large quantity of "face plates" (I think you may actually mean blanking plates) go missing just before a contractor makes a big fuss about this. Has anything like this theft happened before?

    If the head agrees! but now says he'll charge to come back and pass! And he is not cheap!
    Who actually contracted him? Has he been paid? Is there currently anyone around to process invoices.

    Spoke to dell and they want to charge 3 per plate that's ALOT
    For Dell that's amazingly cheap!

    would use a sheet of plastic and stick them over but we may be putting cd drives and tricky to just cover floppy drive on these models!

    Any got anything to fightthe guy back with?
    Find out what exactly he was contracted to do.

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. drive bay blanking plates
    By Geoff in forum Hardware
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 25th February 2009, 08:39 AM
  2. [Pics] Funny number plates
    By Oops_my_bad in forum Jokes/Interweb Things
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 16th June 2008, 04:21 PM
  3. Floppy blanking plates - where to get them?
    By Kyle in forum General Chat
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10th November 2007, 11:09 AM
  4. Blanking plates
    By witch in forum Hardware
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 16th October 2007, 11:45 AM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •