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Hardware Thread, IWB in open area in Technical; Just to add my ten pence worth: A touch sensitive plasma would be my preferred option, as you could wheel ...
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    Just to add my ten pence worth:

    A touch sensitive plasma would be my preferred option, as you could wheel it out or hinge it away when not needed. A projector would need to be fixed really, even if the IWB was moveable. Moving a hot projector seriously shortens lamp life. I've seen Epson's projector with built in IR sensor and it seems to work well, but I suspect in Primary you're looking for something which would work with fingers and not just a pen or stylus? (Just imagining the pens getting lost in the middle of a room!)

    Another huge advantage of plasmas is that they can show true HD video, rather than XGA or WXGA, and also that they are easily visible even without dimming the lights.

    Expensive though.

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    eeeem

    Late response, but i like the idea of a self made rigid and heavy metal, mobile frame. Take care of the wheel mounts and brakes durability!!!
    No problem of coordination with projector and should be cheapest from the ones that promethean for example offers. Cute! (starts looking for his metal welding equipment and tools) :P

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    It looks like the best solution may be an Epson BrightLink 450Wi coupled with a heavy duty electric projection screen. Anyone have any experience of these...?

    Epson BrightLink 450Wi - Epson America, Inc.

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    Hi

    Im not sure the 450wi is the right solution for your application, but probably the cheapest. The projector is ultra short throw and designed to be mounted on the wall so not sure how you intend fitting it, perhaps on a mobile unit such as loxit, but again not sure that would work. Also a drop down electric screen just wouldnt be sturdy enough and would mive when you use the pen ! You can buy a Promethean (and smart) mobile system that can be moved around easily and has a built on short throw projector that would not require any adjustment when you use it. Or like others say you could go for an interactive plasma, but pricey for a decent size.
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    scooby is correct, the Epson is not suitable unless it is wall mounted and as it is an ultra short throw projector anything other than a rigid screen would mean a terrible image.

    You could get a mobile solution in a number of ways:

    As already mentioned a mobile touch screen LCD of which there are a number of types; Sahara clevertouch, VTRON, Samsung, these could all be mounted on a portable trolley and moved around as needed.

    Again as mentioned you could use a portable interactive whiteboard all in one solution. These are less expensive than some of the touch LCD but much more bulky and will probably need recalibrating fairly often.

    You could also mount any type of interactive board onto a bespoke trolley system (there are several available such as from loxit) and match that with an ultra short throw projector.

    Alternatively you could get a drop down screen in any location suspended from the ceiling and as advised earlier use a wireless tablet of some kind (such as the Promethean activslate).

    To be honest though with this type of bespoke solution I would recommend speaking to your AV supplier and asking them to look at the build plans and go through the options with you.

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    Having looked at all the pros and cons, the school have decided to abandon the idea of having something appear from the ceiling. Apart from all the problems mentioned above, it turns out the ceiling's going to be much to full of beams, lights and radiant panels to try to put anything else up there.

    So, they've decided to go for a trolley-based option. However, it needs to be big (it's a large open area), they want to avoid constant recalibration, and they really want Promethean as that's what they're used to.

    Does anyone know if it's possible to get a mobile stand/trolley for an ActivBoard+2 395 Pro?

    Thanks

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    Promethean officially only go up to 87" mobile systems.

    You may be able to get a mobile trolley to accomodate a 95" from someone like loxit, I'll have a dig around and see what I can find.

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    In all honesty I'd be really wary of anything that large with an overhanging projector arm on a mobile trolley. We've been really impressed with epson's interactive ultra short projector concept Epson BrightLink 450Wi for Education - Epson America, Inc. which we're trialling now. Basically any flat surface becomes interactive, and the projector can be housed right next to the surface, either above it, or below. I'm pretty sure you can use Promethean software without it having to be a Promethean board you use it on.

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    Yes the Epsons could be an option here although you would still need the same trolley and board size regardless as if you were using a promethean board and ultra short throw projector.

    Officially you can use the promethean software with the Epsons (although you would need to buy the full version of activinspire) however Promethean would not offer you any support what so ever if you did this).

    The issue here is finding a stable trolley to hold a board that is so large not really the interactive format you are using.

    I'm waiting for a reply from loxit on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenC View Post
    The issue here is finding a stable trolley to hold a board that is so large not really the interactive format you are using.
    Surely the projector size, or rather boom length, is a massive factor in the stability of the board.

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    Yes it is, I meant that to fill a board so large you would need a larger throw even on an ultra short throw.

    We have provided a number of trolleys with ultra short throw projectors but have used 78" boards which were stable.

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