I'm looking to see what is on offer from HP at the moment in the form of colour laser printers. Is it just me, or are their latest offerings costing more money than the models they are replacing, whilst also having a higher cost per page (prices have gone up more higher than the yields have)?
For instance, the older CP3505 is reasonably economical to run and has a fairly decent yield whilst not costing too much on cartridges. The newer models seem to cost more in both the actual printer and per-page? The CP2525n which is the closest in price compared to what the CP3505 was, has 2800 cartridge yields and costs around £75 per OEM cart. AFAIK, the CP3505 has 6k yield pages at around £120 each OEM?
We have some 2600n printers, and whilst they aren't perfect (and I know its imperfections and why they were so cheap), they offered the same economy at near 3rd the price of the printer compared to the 2525n.
All of our colour lasers are HP, except a few Konica Minoltas gained from the PfS scheme and we like to try and keep some consistancy, but I have to wonder whether HP is shooting itself in the foot here..
Have you looked at the Brother ones we have £100 off on at the moment?? if you want me to send you toner prices and yields let me know and I will email them over!
Remember - the overall cost of printing has increased a lot over the last 12 months. HP toners have increased in price by as much as 25% in some places.
But I agree. The new models are nowhere near as cost effective as the old. This is why I scrabbled round to find a CP3505 to buy recently.
Maybe it is purely on principle I don't want to propose new printers as it seems that we're being ripped off with the newer models..
I looked at this at the end of last year, and the Brother lasers worked out far more cost-effective than anything HP could offer, particularly with the high yield toners. We have Brothers around here anyway and they all work beautifully - they will chug away happily for years and rarely need any intervention from us.
Certainly better than other brands I've had the misfortune to use in the past... I've known some printers need a fuser unit replacing because the paper tray was overloaded by a teacher
If you want a colour Brother, we've had a lot of success with the Brother HL-4050CDN using the high-yield 135 cartridges (4.5p per page for colour toners, 1p for black). The 4040-CN is the same printer without duplex, and about £100 cheaper. Definitely recommended.
Last edited by sonofsanta; 16th February 2010 at 03:46 PM. Reason: Info on Brother printers
Dave these are the the approx costs per page ..there is also meant to be compats coming out in the next few months!! I will email you details!
Just heard from out Brother rep that we might be getting a couple of colour laser for customer to try for a week to see if they like them..not sure what models they will be but I will let you know when I find out..at least you could try before you buy!!
We use the 5550, more than £700 for a set of toners, but they are rated at 14k pages. A general use printer gets 10-12k from them, the art one does 5-6k pages due to increased coverage.
I am liking how the high cap black does double the pages the HP Q6000A does and for the same price, and the high cap colours seems a bit cheaper too in comparison (obviously there is a separate drum too, but hopefully shouldn't affect economy too much). Would certainly be interested, although Vicki, Brother have picked a bad time of the year - as spending freezes very soon and not sure how much money we have/will have before then!
We like to keep a consistency going. We only run the HP 2605, 5650 & 5550 printers. We tend to by the 4650 second hand from a local firm. They are a good work horse and cheapish to run. We dont use original toners. We get them from a local company. If they leak or damage the printer in anyway they will foot the bill. Doing it this will we also don't have to stock loads of different toners.
B/W's are HP 2015 in the smaller offices, and HP3005 and 4200 series printers in the larger offices and some departments. If we buy new ones I try my best to buy the same models where ever I can get them as they're good printers and we already stock the toner.
We have a Xerox printer in our staff room which was a special offer from our printer supplier, this has proved a solid work horse, so I'd possibly be looking to by Xerox as our next batch of printers - can't really keep buying the same ones forever much as I'd like to, and like you the recent offerings from HP don't look too appealing.
Anyone notice the product lifecycle from HP is much shorter than it used to be, they always seem to be introducing new models which do the same as the old ones, look almost the same but frustratingly the same toners won't fit! What happened to doing a whole run of different printers which all used the same toner? They all seem model specific these days.
Last edited by maniac; 17th February 2010 at 01:08 AM.
I can understand the need for different sized cartridges for different size printers, but the model variation is over the top. Like the cp3505. Why did they not design it so the cp3525 was a direct drop in replacement, using the same cartridges?
The cynical person in me would say its because they want people to stock more toner.
I've been impressed with the Brother HL-4040CN we bought last year as it was cheaper than the HP offerings and had a free 3 year warranty.
The same was the case with the Konica Minolta 4650 mono laser we bought last month. As well as being cheaper and with a 3 year warranty compared to the equivalent HP it also seems more solidly built.
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