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    New server advice please

    I'm looking at replacing one of our servers this term and would appreciate some advice please.

    Current situation

    Server A:
    Dual Xeon 2.4 Ghz 3MB RAM running Server 2003
    FSMO
    DNS
    DHCP
    IIS
    Exchange 2003 (clients use Outlook and OWA)
    Sims .Net/FMS (4 users)
    SQL 2005 full version
    Main file server holding 93GB of data


    Server B:
    Dual Pentium 4 3Ghz 4 MB RAM running Server 2003
    DNS
    Print Server
    WSUS
    Anti Virus Server
    Ghost Image file server

    Both servers backup to NAS each night using NTBackup

    Server A is now 6 years old so that's the one I'm looking at replacing. There are 160 XP machines in the domain but no Win 7 or Vista machines yet but that will change during the life of the new server.

    I would like the new server to run Server 2008, Exchange 2010 and SQL 2008. What sort of spec will I need for that!

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    If it was me I'd be looking at something like a DL380 G6 with dual quad core xeon 5000 series CPUs (i7 based so 4cores+4hyperthreads each) an extra dual port NIC and as much RAM as you can afford (16GB should be safe initially) as both SQL and Exchange love their RAM. Hope you mean 2008 R2 server also.

    If your storage is not catered for by a SAN I would be looking at getting the battery backed cache module for the embedded RAID and running SAS drives in either RAID5 or 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    If it was me I'd be looking at something like a DL380 G6 with dual quad core xeon 5000 series CPUs (i7 based so 4cores+4hyperthreads each) an extra dual port NIC and as much RAM as you can afford (16GB should be safe initially) as both SQL and Exchange love their RAM. Hope you mean 2008 R2 server also.

    If your storage is not catered for by a SAN I would be looking at getting the battery backed cache module for the embedded RAID and running SAS drives in either RAID5 or 6.
    Right, thanks for that. What about backing up as I understand server 2008 doesn't use NTBackup in the same way as 2003 did. Should I go for a 3rd party tool like Backup Exec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jobos View Post
    Right, thanks for that. What about backing up as I understand server 2008 doesn't use NTBackup in the same way as 2003 did. Should I go for a 3rd party tool like Backup Exec?
    Yer i would look for something like Backup Exec. Are you planning on using Server 2008 R2 as Backup exec isnt out for it yet.

    PS: only 3 & 4 mb of ram in your current servers. god they are one

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Yer i would look for something like Backup Exec. Are you planning on using Server 2008 R2 as Backup exec isnt out for it yet.

    PS: only 3 & 4 mb of ram in your current servers. god they are one
    It's out tomorrow. (BackupExec 2010)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Yer i would look for something like Backup Exec. Are you planning on using Server 2008 R2 as Backup exec isnt out for it yet.

    PS: only 3 & 4 mb of ram in your current servers. god they are one
    There seems to be one problem after another with this project! This software doesn't work with that software... that software has problems with with software. I've held off replacing this server for 9 months because of the problems with server 2008 and exchange and now if I go with 2008 r2 I won't be able to back it up and that's not even counting the extra cost of Backup Exec as NTBackup was free and with a little help from vbs did the job quite nicely.

    Any dates of when the new version of Backup Exec is released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jobos View Post
    There seems to be one problem after another with this project! This software doesn't work with that software... that software has problems with with software. I've held off replacing this server for 9 months because of the problems with server 2008 and exchange and now if I go with 2008 r2 I won't be able to back it up and that's not even counting the extra cost of Backup Exec as NTBackup was free and with a little help from vbs did the job quite nicely.

    Any dates of when the new version of Backup Exec is released?
    As per my previous post it's out in the US tomorrow. Can't find it on the UK site yet.

    http://www.symantec.com/business/bac...indows-servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    As per my previous post it's out in the US tomorrow. Can't find it on the UK site yet.

    Data Protection, Data Restore | Symantec Backup Exec for Windows Servers
    Is this it ?

    Symantec Backup Exec 2010 for Windows Servers | Symantec | Products | ... discounted software for education establishments

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    That is the one indeed
    Thanks. Is £500 a good price for that as I wasn't banking on spending that much?

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    In all honesty i dont really know. I have never done the buying for it, someone else always dealt with it. I know it doesn't come cheap. It is a good bit of software though.

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    I'm a bit unsure of Backup Exec as I've never used it before and there's a shed load of requirements listed for it which is confusing me so would it backup the server data and Exchange database to NAS OK as there's no tape drive fitted on the new server?



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