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    RM D2D2T - 32bit and RAID0?

    Hi all,

    Were looking at getting a shiny new D2D2T backup system and it looks like were going down the RM Route (for reasons beyond control) – RM.com Shop: RM Disk to Disk to Tape Total Backup Solution
    However in contact with our account manager it seems like the system runs entirely off RAID0 (all 8 1TB HDDs) and uses Windows Storage Server 2003 32bit.
    To me RAID0 is a problem as if one of the HDDs fails in the array then the entire OS will need to be reloaded.
    Also SS2k3 32bit is problem on the account that the 64bit version is readily available and would (in my view) be a better option on the account of stability and speed of processing (even if there will be very limited processing needs).

    So what I’d like to know is if anyone has any comments as to if I should push for these features and if anyone has any comments on the RM system as a end user.

    Thanks!
    James

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    Holy apples Batman that looks pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Holy apples Batman that looks pricey.

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    That it do but because of the bodged CC4 installation were getting a (fair) amount of money off

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    Wow does look pricey!
    Was going to look into this but will stick with my own D2D2D2Weekly offsite tape backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Wow does look pricey!
    Was going to look into this but will stick with my own D2D2D2Weekly offsite tape backup.
    Any particular reason why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    Any particular reason why?
    Well, curently server backs up to NAS box which hands off to another NAS box in another building. Therefore everyday we have two backups in separate physical locations*. Every week a tape backup is made which is taken offsite (there's no reason why this couldn't be everyday).

    All this achieved for vastly less than the RM D2D2T solution which I can't see offers a great deal more protection?

    *If something happens to the RM D2D2T box (eg fire) then you could lose everything onsite, my way you still have an onsite source ready to step in in case a restore is needed.
    Last edited by sparkeh; 13th January 2010 at 11:37 AM.

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    James

    We implemented our own D2D2T solution, with a 64-bit server, but used RM's documentation for the implementation and configuration of BackUp Exec. Works a treat and a fraction of the cost!

    HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by gybe78 View Post
    James

    We implemented our own D2D2T solution, with a 64-bit server, but used RM's documentation for the implementation and configuration of BackUp Exec. Works a treat and a fraction of the cost!

    HTH
    Sounds great! Unfourtanly due to many (mainly political) reasons we wont be doing anything but RM, would love to hear a little more on your choices of a 64bit OS and whatever RAID levels you use though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Well, curently server backs up to NAS box which hands off to another NAS box in another building. Therefore everyday we have two backups in separate physical locations*. Every week a tape backup is made which is taken offsite (there's no reason why this couldn't be everyday).

    All this achieved for vastly less than the RM D2D2T solution which I can't see offers a great deal more protection?

    *If something happens to the RM D2D2T box (eg fire) then you could lose everything onsite, my way you still have an onsite source ready to step in in case a restore is needed.
    That was my origional thinking but again its politics
    Just as the poster below I'd love to hear any views you have on selection of a OS and RAID levels.

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    We opted for Windows 2003 64-bit Storage Server (before 2008 was released) with 6x 1tb SATA drives in RAID0 for optimum speed. The OS is installed on a separate additional non-RAID disk which is backed up separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    Sounds great! Unfourtanly due to many (mainly political) reasons we wont be doing anything but RM, would love to hear a little more on your choices of a 64bit OS and whatever RAID levels you use though
    Purchase a NAS through RM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gybe78 View Post
    We opted for Windows 2003 64-bit Storage Server (before 2008 was released) with 6x 1tb SATA drives in RAID0 for optimum speed. The OS is installed on a separate additional non-RAID disk which is backed up separately.
    Intresting to hear how you used RAID0 - could I ask how long it takes you to backup however much it is that you backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    Purchase a NAS through RM?
    Same thing again - all political
    No NAS only Storage Server
    Last edited by jamesfed; 13th January 2010 at 12:02 PM. Reason: Wording

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    A full weekly backup is 890Gb and takes (approx) 4-5 hours to disk and another 10-11 hours to duplicate to tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gybe78 View Post
    A full weekly backup is 890Gb and takes (approx) 4-5 hours to disk and another 10-11 hours to duplicate to tape.
    Cheers

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