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Hardware Thread, UPS - No. per UPS? in Technical; @James Running three servers from it. We have the free PowerChute software that came with the unit, I can't see ...
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    @James

    Running three servers from it.

    We have the free PowerChute software that came with the unit, I can't see anything untoward in there but will check again later.

    It's only listing one device in the software, the other two servers have the agent on them, and I have a Shutdown script which runs shutting down the two servers not listed in the software.

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    Okay 13% load on the UPS/61 minutes. Would that suggest it's powering just the one server?

    Is there a way I can get it to talk to the other servers, or do I need a cmd file to run shutdown? If so, can I just do shutdown /f \\ip-address?
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    Quote Originally Posted by owen1978 View Post
    Just checked the APC Powerchute console - no big errors apart from the battery age
    If the battery is old it might be worth running a calibration if you haven't done one recently. Be prepared for a shock however - you may find the runtime is much less than you anticipated even with a relatively light load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post

    Is there a way I can get it to talk to the other servers, or do I need a cmd file to run shutdown? If so, can I just do shutdown /f \\ip-address?
    shutdown -s -f -m \\ip-address is how i believe it should be

    -s is for shutdown
    -f for force applications
    -m to specify machine

    toby

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobyglenn View Post
    shutdown -s -f -m \\ip-address is how i believe it should be

    -s is for shutdown
    -f for force applications
    -m to specify machine

    toby
    Yes I just found my old thread actually.

    Just wondering why the APC software isn't finding all the servers?

    APC Powerchute Business Edition - Basic

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    how are they connected?

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    Serial cable. Under communication it says 'Smart Signaling'.

    In the shutdown sequence in APC I have the CMD file and Operating system set at:
    CMD delay: 1 mins
    CMD duration: 1 mins

    OS delay: 2 mins
    OS duration: 3 mins

    That was what APC set by default, that seem suitable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    Serial cable.

    In the shutdown sequence in APC I have the CMD file and Operating system set at:
    CMD delay: 1 mins
    CMD duration: 1 mins

    OS delay: 2 mins
    duration: 3 mins

    That was what APC set by default, that seem suitable?
    as far as i can remember, if the serial cable is only plugged into the one server, then it will only see the one server even if the software knows more then one machine is plugged into the ups or something like that, you can get serial expansion module, means you can plug more then the one server into the thing, which then means you can plug the others in aswell

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    There is an expansion card and all the servers are plugged in. I suspect that perhaps the wrong cables? I've got quite a few APC cables still in packets.

    Anyone know what should be used so I can compare numbers? (P/N 940-2004? 940-0020?)

    http://www.apc.com/products/resource...e_sku=940-0024
    http://www.apc.com/products/resource...e_sku=940-0020


    Hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    There is an expansion card and all the servers are plugged in. I suspect that perhaps the wrong cables? I've got quite a few APC cables still in packets.

    Anyone know what should be used so I can compare numbers? (P/N 940-2004?)

    UPS Communication Cable Smart Signaling


    Hmm.
    the serial leads that come with the ups should be used, i assume the machine the ups can talk to is plugged in using the cables they came with, they have a special wiring method, thats what the smart signalling is, they are wired slightly different to a normal serial lead

    APC's smart protocol

    This also has a wiring diagram for the different apc part numbers
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    Yes we're using the supplied serial cables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by owen1978 View Post
    I got a SmartUPS 1000

    Which is powering 3 servers and a monitor.
    Is that too much for it to handle?

    The local council Brum, say that each curriculum and admin server
    should have their own UPS?

    Thanks

    why would you want a monitor on it anyways mate are ups just shuts down the servers thats what your probley best doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamvaughan View Post
    why would you want a monitor on it anyways mate are ups just shuts down the servers thats what your probley best doing
    We've got a monitor on our UPS too, so that I can double-check that the UPS has sent the shut-down command to the server.

    Those of you who are using shutdown scripts to shut the other servers down, remember these will only work if your switches are also on the UPS - if the switch went off with the power, then the message won't get through. Obvious, I know, but you'd be surprised how often this gets overlooked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by owen1978 View Post
    I've got it to initiate a shutdown sequence as soon as its been on battery for a minute, the curric
    server then runs the default.cmd script which then sends a shutdown command to the admin server.

    Once a year probably, rather be safe than sorry!

    If you have it configured to shut down ASAP and it manages to do so then you don't need to expand your configuration. Splitting the load between the units will increase the runtime per unit, but it would be unnecessary in your case as you're not seeking any run time. We have a Smart UPS 1000 SUA1000 that runs several machines and is instructed to shut everything down as soon as the power goes out. In another part of the office we have the phone system configured to run as long as possible on a SUA1000XL with an external battery pack. For the machines, it wouldn't make sense for us to upgrade to a bigger unit or even split the units as we don't need the run time at all. However, on the phone system we want as long of a runtime as possible. The key is to size things properly in hopes of having the most cost efficient configuration. If you oversize, it costs more up front and more in the long run due to increased maintenance.

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    Can you explain the CMD File and OS Delay/Durations tab in APC?

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