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    Unfortunately the 7110 is not much improvement on my current MSA/CX arrangement. The 7210 comes in one option and it's $86000!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    Unfortunately the 7110 is not much improvement on my current MSA/CX arrangement. The 7210 comes in one option and it's $86000!
    The hardware refresh may change that though, and mean the 7110 might do what you need. I don't have full details and it's still under NDA, but have a chat with Phil at Sun/Oracle and he should be able to give you a better idea of things. Must admit I didn't realise the 7210 was costing that much, ouch... Time for an open letter from EduGeek users to Larry Ellison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    Unfortunately the 7110 is not much improvement on my current MSA/CX arrangement. The 7210 comes in one option and it's $86000!
    The 7210 comes in two off the shelf configs and you are correct the one configuration is approximately $86,000 on todays exchange rate. That said please bare in mind that the $86,000 is list pricing.

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    We are getting discounts, but it takes a little while to come through. Drop me a PM if you are interested.

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    Architecture Principles and Implementation Practices for Remote Replication Using Sun Storage 7000 Unified Storage Systems

    Download here

    This paper addresses considerations in planning and implementing remote replication
    with the Sun Storage 7000 Unified Storage System series to help system planners who
    are seeking to simplify off-site data protection. The audience for this paper is system
    planners seeking to protect local copies of data by replicating them to a remote site.

    Contents

    Overview of the Sun Storage 7000 Remote Replication feature

    • Implementation guidelines for deploying remote replication
    • Application-specific implementation guidelines
    • Example architecture
    • Remote replication benefits
    • Remote replication considerations

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    Partition Alignment Guidelines for Unified Storage

    An excellent blog on partition alignment by Oracle's David Lutz.

    Must read if you want the best performance out of any iSCSI or FC LUN.

    Partition Alignment Guidelines for Unified Storage : Performance Profiles

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    Quote Originally Posted by apaton View Post
    An excellent blog on partition alignment by Oracle's David Lutz.

    Must read if you want the best performance out of any iSCSI or FC LUN.

    Partition Alignment Guidelines for Unified Storage : Performance Profiles
    Spent a while trying to get my head around this when I was setting up our new SQL server (local storage only, wasn't on the S7000) until I found out Server 2008 handles it for you... Well written and clear, cheers.

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    Sun Storage 7000 Series

    Anyone deploy any of the 7000s in a NAS production environment in the last couple of months ?, just wanted know how its copping compared with other vendors like the NetaApp Filers and EMC celera's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejijones View Post
    Anyone deploy any of the 7000s in a NAS production environment in the last couple of months ?, just wanted know how its copping compared with other vendors like the NetaApp Filers and EMC celera's.
    Hi there. The S7000 works incredibly well in NAS production environments. What are you trying to "run" on a NAS in your production environment? There's about 5000 units and over 120PB of disk on the S7000 right now and lots of customers use it every day with great success.

    Drop me a line on here and I can put you in touch with my counterpart in your neck of the woods.

    Regards,

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejijones View Post
    Anyone deploy any of the 7000s in a NAS production environment in the last couple of months ?, just wanted know how its copping compared with other vendors like the NetaApp Filers and EMC celera's.
    Had a 7210 running for about a year now as a NAS box, has all the file shares, redirected documents, profiles etc on. It has working extremely well, had a few niggles when we moved from 2003 server domain to 2008 R2 but in the end that was easily fixed. Performance is superb, we have over 600 computers connecting to it and 1500 users with no performance issues at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejijones View Post
    Anyone deploy any of the 7000s in a NAS production environment in the last couple of months ?, just wanted know how its copping compared with other vendors like the NetaApp Filers and EMC celera's.
    All good here (7410, looking to buy a 7120 to go with it) for NAS (CIFS and NFS).

    Definitely better than NetApp from a price/performance point of view. You could get a NetApp box that would outperform an S7000 box, but you'd be paying 10x for it. NetApp quoted us 120k to upgrade our storage, Sun/Oracle gave us a bigger/faster box for under 40k. Of course, if you've got tons on money to throw around then NetApp is still nice kit.

    The S7000 isn't perfect, we get the odd hiccup like you do with any hardware. It's extremely good at staying up and serving files even when it does have issues though.

    Currently got 10 VMs on it over NFS and about 500 users (userspaces + profiles) on it over CIFS. Eventually this will be about 1600 users and I don't foresee any major issues.

    Happy to chat if you want to PM me, otherwise Phil at Oracle will sort you out.

    Cheers,
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    Trevor,

    you have an S7310 matey :-)

    probably early morning fat fingers - see you later on this morning.

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    I know the reply is a bit after your original posting but we now have the S7120 which has 12 - 120TB of storage (starts with 12x drives and 96GB write acceleration (100k IOPS)

    Drop me a line on here if you want / need to chat about this.

    WR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebdenlad View Post
    Trevor,

    you have an S7310 matey :-)

    probably early morning fat fingers - see you later on this morning.
    Ha ha, yeah, as you saw this morning it just sits there working away and I forget about it, so I'd completely forgotten what model it was ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejijones View Post
    Anyone deploy any of the 7000s in a NAS production environment in the last couple of months ?, just wanted know how its copping compared with other vendors like the NetaApp Filers and EMC celera's.
    We'll we've just gone from a Sun 7110 to an EMC Celerra NS-480, so I can offer some comparisions between the two systems if you like .

    Firstly I'd just like to say that we're 100% happy with the Sun 7110. It's an excellent unit, it had just reached 100% capacity! If the Oracle pricing had been keener (something I believe has been rectified) we would have jumped at the chance of a 7310/7410, but unfortunately EMC came along and undercut everyone by a significant margin .

    The Sun system is without a shadow of a doubt the easier system to work with. The Celerra is very very very complicated. I'm just very glad that EMC set it all up! The web interface for the Celerra is OK. It's not quite as good as the Sun system, but it's still pretty easy to move around.

    It's not really fair to directly compare performance between our two systems (the Celerra has 3tb of SSDs!), but I will say that we've been more than happy with the performance we got from the 7110. It's happily serving files for all staff and students (1100 users), as well as acting as an NFS store for alot of VMs (around 20). If I was offered a swapout of our Celerra for a like-for-like Sun model I'd almost certainly take it. The EMC Celerra is a nice bit of kit, but to be honest it's just too complicated! That and I'm not overly keen on EMCs snapshotting model

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