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    Slow computer

    Probably wrong forum so sorry in advance!

    Brother in law bought computer round the other night complaining it is really slow and keeps getting the ' low on memory' warning. Despite the fact it only has 190mb of ram he also has virgin media pc guard and avg anti virus installed. Not having virgin broadband, before I uninstall avg is pc guard an adequate anti virus?

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    I'd get rid of the Virgin Media stuff personally, there's no real need if he has AVG (and something like Malware Bytes/Spybot).

    He needs a serious injection of memory, worth a nose at his motherboard to see what board it is, and how the 192MB is made up.

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    1 stick 256mb - presumably shared graphics. Found an old stick of 256mb to put in to boost it up a bit, think a browse on ebay for 1gb is in order

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    1 stick 256mb - presumably shared graphics. Found an old stick of 256mb to put in to boost it up a bit, think a browse on ebay for 1gb is in order
    I would try and identify what the motherboard is, as it may not even be able to support 1GB of memory. I would stick with AVG 8.0. It does what it says on the tin.

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    Done the crucial scan, max 1gb per slot, however, prob do 2 x 512mb.

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    don't waste your money on 512, if you only want 1GB just buy 1GB outright and then maybe you can move it to another oldish PC at a later date.

    no point skimping on memory, if you can afford it, stick in 2GB it makes a blinding difference. then all you've got to do is wipe off the OS and reinstall a clean version of WIN98 and you'll have a really hot PC. (not sure 98 supports that much RAM though!)

    oh and depending on the memory, you can buy crucial memory from ebuyer.com cheaper. the common one has a code with Z40b in it. Crucial stopped listing that code, but when i bought some recently for some MACs the label on the memory module had that code on it, and it is a few quid cheaper on ebuyer.

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    From memory (no pun intended) Windows 98 struggled with more than 512MB of memory due to a memory management bug which was never fixed. Secondly I wouldn't recommend Windows 98 anymore as it's an unsupported OS. At the very least you should be running Windows 2000, however this is in its extended support phase.

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    i was just joking about the win98. it's just fun to watch a machine load in 15-30 seconds.

    i loved 2k, but xp is okay now.

    either way, putting in the extra memory has got to be the best option. what type of memory is it: sdram? or ddr? if it's ddr that'll defo be useful in another machine, or even a printer of a certain age.

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    + of course anything running 192mb is very unlikely to support 2gb of ram. And depending on the type of motherboard and memory used you could very well find it's cheaper to by a replacement second user motherboard, processor and ram to match than just a single stick of some memory.

    I can still sell a single stick of 256mb PC100 memory for 40 quid - I do cheat though by selling them as "Apple Compatible" - point being I've seen bundles of 1gb DDR on a pentium 4 2ghz processor and motherboard go for 20 quid!

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    Posting from said computer now! Installed second stick of ddr 256mb lying around at home, uninstalled avg difference incredible! Got a 512mb ddr stick for a school pc the other week for a fiver from ebay so thats what I'll be doing for this pc I think due to brother in laws limited funds!

    I can still sell a single stick of 256mb PC100 memory for 40 quid
    Got lots spare at work, are they really selling for that much?

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    PC100/133 is going for more than DDR which is more expensive now than DDR2.

    All about the economies of scale and supply/demand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrbb View Post
    uninstalled avg difference incredible!
    Pray tell us there is something taking it's place. I thought the concensus was to keep AVG

    @Kmount - as for the prices, it's one of those industries where brand new is by far cheaper than older kit, sometimes even if it's used! CRAZY. Aren't you supposed to be abroad anyway...?

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    Avast! is just as good if not slightly better and lighter on resources. Give that a shot.

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    Secondly I wouldn't recommend Windows 98 anymore as it's an unsupported OS
    Don't say that, you'll make Simon cry!

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    Pray tell us there is something taking it's place.
    Umm now that would be silly of me wouldn't it?

    Kept pc guard on - uninstalled avg first to see difference, on the basis that I may have needed a password and their virgin details to uninstall pc guard.

    Also taking off avg has made a difference in speed so am keeping pc guard on which has all components in one package and no need to learn how to manage new firewall, antispyware, privacy software etc for the basic user ie the brother in law!

    Have started to use avast on my own computer - not sure about it yet.



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