Hardware Thread, In-house network cabling in Technical; It may be cheaper for me to cable myself but by the time I've messed about doing it, it isn't ...
25th November 2008, 02:49 PM #16
It may be cheaper for me to cable myself but by the time I've messed about doing it, it isn't worth it. I even have a tester capable of certifying the cabling.
We use a company called Ampec who are excellent. They are used to cabling so fier cables out in no time and Fluke test everything, providing full reports from the Fluke testing! Ampec aren't expensive and it means that I am free to do my job rather than smashing my way through a million walls to run a couple of cables!
25th November 2008, 03:49 PM #17
But smashing through walls is fun?
Originally Posted by Ric_
25th November 2008, 05:22 PM #18
We have all out cabling done by an external company here, we're not allowed to do it ourselves (save for the odd 1 or 2 that we have run from one side of the room to the other through the ceiling with an RJ45 connector on both ends, so no termination required).
something to do with a mixture of insurance on our safety (working in roofs etc.), electrical safety, cable quality/guarantee and warranty should something go wrong at a later date.
Can't say I'm fussed much, saves me a lot of work sometimes!
26th November 2008, 09:19 AM #19
We have an external contractor who installs the vast majority of our cabling. I do however install the odd netwoirk socket thats not far from a cabinet, I cant say we use the low smoke purple cable though. In fact, we're nearly through a build project and non of the cabling seems to be low smoke purple stuff. Am I missing something here???
As mentioned though, its great fun trying to run a cable. Still trying to get the school to buy a Fluke DTX tester though
26th November 2008, 09:45 AM #20
We used to pay a fortune for contractors to do cabling work, but most of it was shoddy - different size trunking, no cornering pieces, not straight etc.. so we told the school we would do it ourselves... got a £5000 pay increase each, and now plan to do the works during holidays and other periods when we have spare time during work hours....
We bought a TestUm Validator, which gives us proper speed tests and results and now the only thing we have to purchase is the trunking and cable. In during this we've accumelated a bigger toolbox than the site staff..
26th November 2008, 09:58 AM #21
LSZH or LS0H doesn't have to be purple.
26th November 2008, 10:06 AM #22
We used to have to rely on external contractors for our "25 year guarantee" bit - but the preferred LEA contractor was expensive, and a relative of the guy who's in charge of LEA ICT.
We demanded a "course" and they provided us with a 20 minute "prove you can terminate a cat5 box and plug" session with one of their techs, followed by "well done, you passed. You can do your own now".
So we do.
26th November 2008, 10:58 AM #23
We sort of do it ourselves... we do the installation, but not as employees of the school.
My boss got so fed up with external contractors doing a bad job that he set up his own contracting company, complete with a huge amount of public liability insurance (which the school doesn't have). During the holidays we book ourselves as on leave from the school (with agreement from SMT, and using our normal holiday allowance), and contract ourselves back to the school. Works out a lot cheaper for the school as we're not out to make an obscene profit, we do a job we know we'll be happy with, plus we know all the buildings inside out so get the work done more quickly.
It also means my boss can buy all the Fluke gear he needs (including an outrageously expensive fiber testing kit) and claim the VAT back, as it's a business expense.
The only downside is that we each have to file a tax return as the contract work isn't PAYE.
26th November 2008, 11:06 AM #24
External contractors here for everything but the most minor network cabling job.
It's worth it just for NOT having to go up in the roof of our Victorian building... there's 150 years of yuk up there...
26th November 2008, 11:23 AM #25
we tend to do most of it TBH but the last job was contracted out to someone we have used for years. I dont mind it in the newer builds but some can be a bit horrible. All depends if we have any time or not!
26th November 2008, 11:58 AM #26
Hmmm, yes, I have not very fond memories of the last time I was in our loft, dressed in coveralls, hi-vis, hardhat, headlamp, and a combat vest full of tools. I still felt dirty when I left, and I was blowing black snot out of my nose for 2 days afterwards. So a bit like travelling on the tube, really.
Originally Posted by elsiegee40
It was the piles of feathers with no obvious owner that were the most disturbing.
26th November 2008, 12:09 PM #27
I vowed never to do under building cabling again after the same black snot experience and the inconvenient fact that builders use the space under the buildings as a dumping ground for sharp stuff like shattered concrete and broken glass .
This made the task fun enough but getting eyed by an angry rodent the size of my head and then witnessing a rather heated exchange of violence between said rodent and a stray cat the next day I decided that the whole experience was really not as fun as I had expected.
We now use a contractor to do all but the smallest jobs.
27th November 2008, 11:17 AM #28
We're lucky here in that I'm an ex-Siemens engineer and my Senior Tech is very good so we do our own cabling runs. My predecessor got contractors in and spent a fortune at the school and got very little in return
7th January 2009, 06:16 PM #29
Quality Data and Electrical Cabling for Schools
Hi, AzteQ Solutions is a company situated in Hertfordshire but operating nationally. We are an ISO 9001:2000 organisation and all of our staff are vetted and cleared to work in school environments. We carry out electrical and data cabling. We can provide certification for both and to NICEIC. We also provide desktop engineering resource for moves and changes works if required. I have attached our standard PDF for more information. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you require a free survey or more information.
Originally Posted by stratisphere
7th January 2009, 07:12 PM #30
All cabling is done in house here by me, I actually enjoy it!
Thanks to PEO from:
AzteQ_Grant (7th January 2009)
By benIT in forum MIS Systems
Last Post: 26th November 2008, 01:05 PM
By MrPstv in forum Wireless Networks
Last Post: 8th November 2008, 04:36 PM
By z4ydi in forum Network and Classroom Management
Last Post: 22nd May 2008, 12:26 AM
By maniac in forum How do you do....it?
Last Post: 6th December 2007, 04:09 PM
By russdev in forum General Chat
Last Post: 1st May 2006, 07:26 PM
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)