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    Upgrading existing PCs.

    We have a number of PCs on the network that are starting to age quite significantly and are starting to creak under the strain that modern software is putting on them. Unfortunately we don't have the budget to replace all of the PCs this year but we could quite easily refit one entire room with new PCs and upgrade all the creaky ones with new motherboards, CPUs, RAM and hard drives. Anyone here ever do this? We've done it in small numbers before (never more than 15 at once) but never as many as we're planning at the moment (60+)

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    The previous Network Manager did it here. Well actually he built them from scratch cause it was cheaper than buying brand name equipment. I think he built 63 in a week or so. They a few years old and still working ok. Once you get the production line cracking and coffee and snacks on stand by you'll go through them in no time. I used to work as a hardware engineer and you can really get through them quick once you start. Try and get 3 year warranties on all the parts though.

    I think it's a good idea to upgrade your old kit. As long as the cases aren't some small form factor case with a specially designed power supply, lol. What machines are they and what sort of upgrades are you looking to get?

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Whats the current spec? And what OS are they running?

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    What about converting them to thin clients? Is that an option you're willing to look at?

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Don't forget the licensing although if you keep the case with the oem license stuck on it no one will know.

    I usually buy the cheapest upgrade items I can find as a 2.6ghz chip is plenty fast enough in todays classroom for browsing the net trying to bypass the filtering to see some flesh.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Were always short on money and have some very old PCS so for the price of 62 new PCs I have bought 62 second user PCs P4 2 Ghz 512 Meg ram XP pro. Replaced all the switches with procurves. Im having 2 runs of fiber done and bought a new server and still have £3000 in change.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Current spec:

    P3 500-866MHz, 128MB RAM, Intel BX or 815e motherboards, 8-80GB hard drive depending on when it was last repaired. Stone machines. Running 2000. Coming up to six years old now.

    Looking to upgrade to: Sempron 2800+, 512MB RAM, S754 board with grfx/audio. Upgrading to XP for various reasons.

    I can see the inevitable question: Why not use them as thin clients? Well, it would cost as much to build a Citrix or TS server and get all the appropriate licences as it would to just upgrade them. We'd have to do the whole thing from scratch as we're running fat clients here at the moment and using a Linux system isn't an option so it would have to be TS or Citrix.

    I used to work as a repair engineer for a fairly large and completely evil computer mail order company so I know whats involved and have a fair idea of how much time it would take. It used to take me about 20 minutes to half an hour to build a basic PC and get it tidy.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    TBH, with that processor speed I would just look at a HD and memory upgrade. XP runs fine at that speed with lots of RAM and a new-ish hard drive.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    If it they were just running Office, I'd probably agree with you. However Studio MX v8, Photoshop Elements 4 and other pieces of software crawl on them no matter how much RAM you put in there so a faster CPU is in order I think. Hell, Fireworks 8 is sluggish on this thing and its an Athlon 64 3000+ with 2GB RAM :|

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Ah, you're proberbly right then.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    I can see the inevitable question: Why not use them as thin clients? Well, it would cost as much to build a Citrix or TS server and get all the appropriate licences as it would to just upgrade them. We'd have to do the whole thing from scratch as we're running fat clients here at the moment and using a Linux system isn't an option so it would have to be TS or Citrix.
    That's a one off cost. Continually upgrading your desktop PC's is not.

    A Linux TS is fine for the basics. eg, OpenOffice, GIMP, Scribus, Firefox, Thunderbird is what I'm intending here eventually.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Everyone here bar the Head wants to get a Leasing Scheme running.

    Unfortunately, like I said, the Head doesn't.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norphy
    Hell, Fireworks 8 is sluggish on this thing and its an Athlon 64 3000+ with 2GB RAM :|
    Just shows how bloated Macromedia software has got, really

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    They actually wanted me to try and get the autodesk suite running on celeron 533 machines with 128mb memory, which were already crawling with XP and various other 3d des software. Took me a year of arguing to get 3.0g p4's in place of them. I almost cried i was so happy, lol.

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    Re: Upgrading existing PCs.

    "It's a computer, it can do anything"
    -OR-
    "It's a computer, surely you can make it work?" :P

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