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    Who has a laptop trolley?

    We are planning a major upgrade to our network, including purchasing a laptop trolley and replacing the existing WAPS. The plan is to start with 30 laptops and then increase this to 60 and then 90.

    Can anyone tell me which laptops they have, what trolley they have, what WAPS and switches they have and where the WAPS are placed.

    I know laptops are a pain, but our HT is very pro "mobile learning"!

    Thanks!

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    If your school is interested, I have a school that has a laptop trolley (holds 20) for sale at half price (500) never used and it still has its locking plate, lock and 2 sets of keys.

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    We have 5 sets of 15 here. 3 sets of Stone and 2 sets of RM Mobile1. They had an access point in each trolley which they plugged into a classroom wired point each time. This didn't work because staff plugged them in with no power, gave the laptops out 1st etc. so we took them out and blanket covered the site with Netgear el cheapo points which work reasonably well.

    In terms of usage etc the departments who own them are totally responsible for moving them around and charging them etc. We do maintain them on a regular basis (1 per half term). The RM Mobile 1 are much better than the Stone ones although to be fair any issues we have had are ones of vandalism rather than kit failure, the favourite one being to pick the keys off!

    The other nice thing about the RM Mobile 1 is you can lock the wireless to always on in the BIOS which is helpful.

    The other thing we go through is keys - staff leave 'em in - move trolley - hit door frame etc.

    We also have 15 MacBooks which dual boot for Media. Not a jot of trouble from them.
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    We have a trolley holding 15 Dell D505's, a Linksys WAP and a HP 1320n on top. Staff who want to use it must first undergo a short induction and we have a "manual" stored in the trolley also (a bit pointless though - staff reading IT instruction manuals? In our dreams!) We make staff responsible for the unit so if anything gets damaged/lost/stolen etc. they will not be allowed to use the trolley again for a long time. We also use combination padlocks (keys too easy to lose).
    The usual problems we have is that some staff forget to plug in the WAP or they turn the laptops on before the WAP, or they forget to turn off the power strips in the trolley before plugging it into a wall socket (trips the electrics in the area and causes havoc!). They usually only forget just the once though...

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    We are running about 150 laptops, going up to 400 soon.

    We use "Lapsafe" storage and charging trolleys, we have 6 in use at the moment and more to come as "laptops" are the in thing here this week, depending on the model they can hold upto 30 laptops, get the ones with the charging units included then you don't have to use the individual laptop chargers, as that's a real pain.

    3Com OfficeConnect wap, easy to setup and use.

    All our printing is networked , so no problems there.

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    We have 4 full laptop trolleys for sale here... includes 20 laptops (on average - depending how quickly I can get them fixed & returned to trolley).

    Best offer wins

    </fed up technician>

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    We use the HP Wireless management module, with HP laptops. We have about 60 at the moment and touch wood the only problems we have is the pesky kids that turn off the wireless buttons!!

    I did put my foot down and say that we would not be responsible for unloading/checking/charging laptops at the end or beginning of every lesson.

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    2 Trolleys of 15 RM nBook 4150s running off two Buffalo access points.

    The WLAN has originally introduced for teacher laptops, though not ideal it was decided by SMT to add the 30 pupil laptops to this. Plus, the way the APs are placed, to cover the school for the teachers, means that quite often, all 30 are connected to just one point.

    Runs surprising well, the only problem I have seen is when a teacher told all the pupils to print some large files, to the same network printer, all at once and the thing just fell over. They don't do that anymore.

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    Lapsafe Mini Mentor Smartline S with DTM + Dell D830 Laptops.

    Work like a dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by button_ripple View Post
    Can anyone tell me which laptops they have
    We don't have whole-class laptop trollies here, but we did at my last school. There we used first-model RM One laptops, as they were "designed" to be suitable for that exact task. The hard-glass screens were good, but the keys tended to come off the keyboard too easily (like, if you opened the lid too fast...). I'd say go for the cheapest laptops you can find and just accept that, say, 10% will be damaged per year. We currently have several of the Dell Vostro 1000 laptops - cheap (186 each?), but perfectly capable.

    Avoid laptop trollies that are basically wooden cabinets with castor wheels on the bottom, they can't take any serious use. Castor wheels, especially, vibrate and wobble and fall off on anything but the smoothest of ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire View Post
    We use "Lapsafe" storage and charging trolleys, we have 6 in use at the moment and more to come as "laptops" are the in thing here this week, depending on the model they can hold upto 30 laptops, get the ones with the charging units included then you don't have to use the individual laptop chargers, as that's a real pain.
    I have to take a stand against lapsafes for a couple of points.
    The 30 laptop trolley is a nightmare to move around the corridors even when it doesn't have hundreds of excited children running around the corridors, it's just so heavy and unresponsive to steering requests!

    Also the built in charger might seem like a good idea at the time but if you replace the laptops at a later date you are stuck with the wrong chargers in the trolley, and yes I do speak from bitter experiece.

    To change tack completely has anyone used asus eee notebooks in a trolley, that would be easy to move around?

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    I have 4 laptop trolleys with 15 laptops in each. Each trolley has 3 Dlink WAP's. These are all connected to a switch and then into the network.

    We then have 60 Toshiba A200's.

    Not really had any problems with them here. We use Loxit trolleys that can hold 18 in each.

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    we use Loxit Lapbank 30-4 Laptop Storage Trolley's. Very sterdy. Heavy yes. If kids get in the way they will get run over- simple as. They need to be heavy as that's their main purpose- so they don't get nicked?! They also can be bolted to the wall/floor.

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    We have 19 laptop trolleys at our Establishment with 15 laptops in each, shortly to go up to 20 trolleys.

    Our laptops are a mix of older Fujitsu and HP laptops, and newer Dell Latitude D520 model laptops.

    Every trolley has a Nortel 2330A WAP on the trolley that is placed into a dedicated wall point clearly marked with a large 'W'. Every room has a dedicated wall point. Teachers are told that they need to plug the trolley WAP into the wall point two minutes before starting to use the trolley. The WAP connects to a Nortel security switch.

    Laptops currently run Windows XP SP2 with the wireless client V3 update. They will have XP SP3 from September.

    We have WSUS set to only notify for updates and not download them. Each half term we then download the updates to each laptop and install them. This reduces wireless usage to only the necessary traffic. At the same time they are checked and necessary repairs done.

    Having had several problems getting them working correctly (incompatible wireless cards, the infamous svchost.exe problem caused by WSUS on XP SP2!) they now work very reliably.

    The only problems are the occasional 'domain not available problem' when Windows seems to lose the wireless settings and you need to do a 'gpupdate' to refresh them. That and occasional vandalism of keyboards.

    If maintained to a strict maintenance regime laptop trolleys can be nearly as reliable as computer suites (but I still prefer cable connections!!!)

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    There are many laptop trolleys out there, they fall into 3 categories:

    1. Storage only (Bretford, Sahara)
    2. Storage & Charging
    3. Rolls Royce! Lapsafe

    Take a look at Keep it secure Trollies.

    We sell a range by several manufacturers but they are by far the best Value for Money.

    PM me if you want details.

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