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    Entry Level Server

    Hello all

    I am looking to buy an entry level server for a school that has a VERY tight budget.

    We are currently updating the ICT suite that hasnt been updated for 6 or so years and currently has very old donated machines.

    Were installing a 660i smartboard with 8 up to date well specced machines and 2 printers.

    It would be a shame not to have a server watching over them all etc and providing the school with a superb asset in storage and backup solution none of which they have anyway

    I have been told they i can get a nicely specced Fuji Siemens Econel 100 server, it has a xeon 3350 processor, 2gb ram and 2x 160gb in RAID 1 for 499, and around 110 for server 2003 standard R2.

    Has anyone got any experience of the Fuji Siemens Econel 100 server?

    i have a HP ProLiant server that was bought in summer and its a beast, but it cost around 2500 and this school does NOT have this budget. 499 is stretching the budget!
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    To be honest, you don't really need anything too powerful if its for 8 PCs

    I would probably suggest a glorified PC with maybe 4Gb RAM in and a couple of 500Gb SATA drives in. Maybe a Core 2 Quad CPU

    You should be able to get something like this, along with Windows Server for less than 500 I would imagine

    If you need any more help or info then give me a shout

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    Well the spec i have been quoted is:

    Intel Xeon 3350 CPU
    2gb Mem
    2x 160gb HDD's in raid 1

    all the usual gubbins for 499

    i could probably build a server but tbh would rather it was built by a reputable company

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    Dell have one starting at 179 No idea if it's any good!

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    I just picked myself up two low-specced, but reasonable servers from Misco for around 600 (that also included an extra pair of 500GB drives and a few other toys). Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Standard goes to schools at about 56.80 according to my Pugh catalogue, and I wouldn't imagine 2003 would be more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe90bass View Post
    Dell have one starting at 179 No idea if it's any good!
    We bought a couple of those when they were on special offer - they work just fine, but bear in mind the price doesn't include an operating system or anything. Inside, the build quality is good - nice tidy cables, tool-less components, one of those big hood jobbies to suck the warm air away from the processor, and a rather handy internal USB port to plug a standard USB drive into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    We bought a couple of those when they were on special offer - they work just fine, but bear in mind the price doesn't include an operating system or anything. Inside, the build quality is good - nice tidy cables, tool-less components, one of those big hood jobbies to suck the warm air away from the processor, and a rather handy internal USB port to plug a standard USB drive into.

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    Yes had spotted that, if it did include an OS at that price I would have bought a shedload and stuck them on eBay Shipping works out at about 57 as well, bit steep for one box, but then I guess that's how they make their money.........

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    Insight have a nice deal on a HP ML115 - with 3 year Warranty for 119.99. Can take standard DDRII Memory, so 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB @26.99 each = 53.98.

    Can't beat a HP with 3 Yr warranty with 4GB RAM for 173.97 exc.!

    I can guarantee that RAM KVR667D2N5 (ones linked above) will run with this server.. I am running it in my home config..

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    Nice one Freewill, I'm tempted to buy one of them for use at home studying for 2008 MCST. It works out at less than 150 with postage and VAT

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    I would stick with the HP. The Fujitsu is using an old inefficient Pentium D processor.

    HP Proliant ML110 G4 is also a good choice if you can get hold of one. They're usually around 110 ex VAT too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWill View Post
    Insight have a nice deal on a HP ML115 - with 3 year Warranty for 119.99. Can take standard DDRII Memory, so 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB @26.99 each = 53.98.

    Can't beat a HP with 3 Yr warranty with 4GB RAM for 173.97 exc.!

    I can guarantee that RAM KVR667D2N5 (ones linked above) will run with this server.. I am running it in my home config..
    Just ordered the same server for 130 inc vat and delivery from Amazon plenty good enough for playing around with 2008 server in the house - just thought.... hope there's no driver issues

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    I can thoroughly recommend the HP ProLiant ML110


    G5 Intel Xeon 3065 Dual Core 2.33Ghz
    1GB 250GB NHP SATA
    DVD+/-R/RW
    3 Year NBD Warranty
    Tower Server

    We keep this model in and educational price is 189.99+vat Free Delivery

    PM me if we can help!

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    Guys what your forgetting here is that im looking for anyone who has experience with the Econel server at the spec ive listed

    I am not touching a pentium D with a barge pole, pentium d, celeron d should be put into a deep dark hole and buried for the rest of time.

    the econel i have been quoted, as ive said twice so far, has a xeon 3350 and 2gb mem, i feel that this spec is great for the price with the amount of storage also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetooth View Post
    Guys what your forgetting here is that im looking for anyone who has experience with the Econel server at the spec ive listed

    I am not touching a pentium D with a barge pole, pentium d, celeron d should be put into a deep dark hole and buried for the rest of time.

    the econel i have been quoted, as ive said twice so far, has a xeon 3350 and 2gb mem, i feel that this spec is great for the price with the amount of storage also.

    Many appologies I was going by the refrence to Proliant in your post and because I was quite shocked at what you had been quoted I thought best to make you aware of the comparisons,

    The Econel is a good stable low end server with great build quality for the price we sell these as spec below for 350.00+vat Free Delivery

    Intel Dual-Core Xeon 3065 2.33Ghz, 2GB DDR2 , 2X 160GB SATA and 80 For the Operating System. 2003 Standard

    Hope that helps you,

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