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    Entry Level Server

    Hello all

    I am looking to buy an entry level server for a school that has a VERY tight budget.

    We are currently updating the ICT suite that hasnt been updated for 6 or so years and currently has very old donated machines.

    Were installing a 660i smartboard with 8 up to date well specced machines and 2 printers.

    It would be a shame not to have a server watching over them all etc and providing the school with a superb asset in storage and backup solution none of which they have anyway

    I have been told they i can get a nicely specced Fuji Siemens Econel 100 server, it has a xeon 3350 processor, 2gb ram and 2x 160gb in RAID 1 for £499, and around £110 for server 2003 standard R2.

    Has anyone got any experience of the Fuji Siemens Econel 100 server?

    i have a HP ProLiant server that was bought in summer and its a beast, but it cost around £2500 and this school does NOT have this budget. £499 is stretching the budget!
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    To be honest, you don't really need anything too powerful if its for 8 PCs

    I would probably suggest a glorified PC with maybe 4Gb RAM in and a couple of 500Gb SATA drives in. Maybe a Core 2 Quad CPU

    You should be able to get something like this, along with Windows Server for less than £500 I would imagine

    If you need any more help or info then give me a shout

    Regards

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    Well the spec i have been quoted is:

    Intel Xeon 3350 CPU
    2gb Mem
    2x 160gb HDD's in raid 1

    all the usual gubbins for £499

    i could probably build a server but tbh would rather it was built by a reputable company

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    Dell have one starting at £179 No idea if it's any good!

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    I just picked myself up two low-specced, but reasonable servers from Misco for around £600 (that also included an extra pair of 500GB drives and a few other toys). Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Standard goes to schools at about £56.80 according to my Pugh catalogue, and I wouldn't imagine 2003 would be more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe90bass View Post
    Dell have one starting at £179 No idea if it's any good!
    We bought a couple of those when they were on special offer - they work just fine, but bear in mind the price doesn't include an operating system or anything. Inside, the build quality is good - nice tidy cables, tool-less components, one of those big hood jobbies to suck the warm air away from the processor, and a rather handy internal USB port to plug a standard USB drive into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    We bought a couple of those when they were on special offer - they work just fine, but bear in mind the price doesn't include an operating system or anything. Inside, the build quality is good - nice tidy cables, tool-less components, one of those big hood jobbies to suck the warm air away from the processor, and a rather handy internal USB port to plug a standard USB drive into.

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    Yes had spotted that, if it did include an OS at that price I would have bought a shedload and stuck them on eBay Shipping works out at about £57 as well, bit steep for one box, but then I guess that's how they make their money.........

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    Insight have a nice deal on a HP ML115 - with 3 year Warranty for £119.99. Can take standard DDRII Memory, so 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB @£26.99 each = £53.98.

    Can't beat a HP with 3 Yr warranty with 4GB RAM for £173.97 exc.!

    I can guarantee that RAM KVR667D2N5 (ones linked above) will run with this server.. I am running it in my home config..

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    Nice one Freewill, I'm tempted to buy one of them for use at home studying for 2008 MCST. It works out at less than £150 with postage and VAT

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    I would stick with the HP. The Fujitsu is using an old inefficient Pentium D processor.

    HP Proliant ML110 G4 is also a good choice if you can get hold of one. They're usually around £110 ex VAT too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWill View Post
    Insight have a nice deal on a HP ML115 - with 3 year Warranty for £119.99. Can take standard DDRII Memory, so 2x Kingston ValueRAM 2GB @£26.99 each = £53.98.

    Can't beat a HP with 3 Yr warranty with 4GB RAM for £173.97 exc.!

    I can guarantee that RAM KVR667D2N5 (ones linked above) will run with this server.. I am running it in my home config..
    Just ordered the same server for £130 inc vat and delivery from Amazon plenty good enough for playing around with 2008 server in the house - just thought.... hope there's no driver issues

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    I can thoroughly recommend the HP ProLiant ML110


    G5 Intel Xeon 3065 Dual Core 2.33Ghz
    1GB 250GB NHP SATA
    DVD+/-R/RW
    3 Year NBD Warranty
    Tower Server

    We keep this model in and educational price is £189.99+vat Free Delivery

    PM me if we can help!

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    Guys what your forgetting here is that im looking for anyone who has experience with the Econel server at the spec ive listed

    I am not touching a pentium D with a barge pole, pentium d, celeron d should be put into a deep dark hole and buried for the rest of time.

    the econel i have been quoted, as ive said twice so far, has a xeon 3350 and 2gb mem, i feel that this spec is great for the price with the amount of storage also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluetooth View Post
    Guys what your forgetting here is that im looking for anyone who has experience with the Econel server at the spec ive listed

    I am not touching a pentium D with a barge pole, pentium d, celeron d should be put into a deep dark hole and buried for the rest of time.

    the econel i have been quoted, as ive said twice so far, has a xeon 3350 and 2gb mem, i feel that this spec is great for the price with the amount of storage also.

    Many appologies I was going by the refrence to Proliant in your post and because I was quite shocked at what you had been quoted I thought best to make you aware of the comparisons,

    The Econel is a good stable low end server with great build quality for the price we sell these as spec below for £350.00+vat Free Delivery

    Intel Dual-Core Xeon 3065 2.33Ghz, 2GB DDR2 , 2X 160GB SATA and £80 For the Operating System. 2003 Standard

    Hope that helps you,



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