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    Pricing an Intranet server

    Before I start I should let you know that we are using RM CC3.

    I am looking for a new server to move our IIS hosted Intranet to (currently on Forest Root).

    I went to RM for a quote and they are trying to sell me an additional CC3 DC with "commisioning" etc - total cost £10k 8O (£3.6K for server the rest is licencing and "commisioning". I sugested a member server which is £6.5k all in (same price server).

    If I went to another supplier I recon I could knock thousands off the price - after all all I want is a 2003 server running IIS6 which will authenticate users using Integrated Authentication from the CC3 domain - and just join it to the existing CC3 domain.

    Any advice about this?

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    What are/will you be running on the Intranet? You could probably get away with a plain server of your spec and just buy a Windows server license and an RM one to be a part of the domain, although I'm not sure if they "allow" this.

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Alot of schools could replace half their servers with 10k 8O . The server should not not cost you more than £1500 I would have said and that will probably be overspecced. You just need to work out the licencing gubbins which where RM is concerned I dont know about.

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    RM, the less said the better.

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Surely they can't expect me to pay for any RM licencing if it's just an Intranet server which isn't anything to do with CC3 except that it's in the same domain! I think I can ignore the fact that CC3 is on the network since within the same domain we are also running vanilla domain-member laptops and stations which have nothing to do with CC3 and just have CALs.

    By the way, I want it to run ASP (and some ASP.NET) for our quite large intranet (which includes booking, timetable, reporting, progress tracking, internal mail (not email), VLE, Support portal and associated (Access but moving to SQL Server 2005) databases.

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Are you hosting this server locally?

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Yes, it will be hosted locally.

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Quote Originally Posted by u8dmtm
    Surely they can't expect me to pay for any RM licencing if it's just an Intranet server which isn't anything to do with CC3 except that it's in the same domain! I think I can ignore the fact that CC3 is on the network since within the same domain we are also running vanilla domain-member laptops and stations which have nothing to do with CC3 and just have CALs.
    yep you are correct

    no problem get quote of what you wqnt and then get rm to beat it



    Russ

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    You mention you have vanilla workstations and laptops but have you ever tried joining a normal member server? Thats what you need to find out really.
    Im sure they will still moan about something regarding CC3 licencing though.
    This how stuff like RM makes things that should be fairly easy horribly complicated :?

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    We have exactly this, odd Dell server we had bashing around we added to the domain as a member server. No contact or extra licensing from RM. Handles all our intranet needs, even authenticating users to use certain web apps, and a shared area we set up outside the RM Learning Resources/Shared areas.

    Only thing that needed changing was I think the DNS record to send intranet to the other server. Can also route the Easylink Intranet shortcut to point to the other server very easily.

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Well there you go you dont have to fork out a small fortune for a relatively simple solution as those greedy boys at RM would have you think

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Then my next question is what sort of server spec should I be going for? Is a dual Xeon with 2GB unneccesary?

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Depends, what platform and workload are you expecting?

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    Im not sure about a dual processor but then your only talking the difference of a few hundred. It all depends on how busy you expect the server to be. If theres only a few on at a time then....

    edit pressed reply then got 2 phone calls inbetween 8O

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    Re: Pricing an Intranet server

    I'd go for:

    Dell PowerEdge 850
    P4 / 2.8
    1GB Ram
    80GB Disk
    3yr NBD on site warranty.

    Should come out at less than £500

    Buy a copy of Win2k3 Web Edition - should come out at < £100 from some one like Ramesys,

    There's not much redundancy in there, but hell - you could buy a hot spare and have change from a grand (probably).

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