Hardware Thread, StorVault 500 (NetApp) or Dell 2900 in Technical; Please could you tell me the best option to buy. The price is below £6000 Thanks.
1.NetApp Storevault, S500 Base ...
18th February 2008, 06:01 PM #1
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StorVault 500 (NetApp) or Dell 2900
Please could you tell me the best option to buy. The price is below £6000 Thanks.
1.NetApp Storevault, S500 Base System,
2U, 12-bay Single controller,
Dual Redundant, Hot Pluggable power supplies, power cords, fans,
1024MB DDR2 Memory, 256MB NVRAM, 2 Ethernet 10/ 100/ 1000 copper,
1 9-pin serial port. Network Appliance Data ONTAP Storevault Edition operating system, Integrated StoreVault Manager software, up to 255 snapshots, e-mail alerts, NIS, DNS, SNMP, NDMP, FlexVol. 2 Years NBD (Advance swap-out - Hardware only) warranty included.
250GB Hot-Swappable SATA Drive Module with driver carrier - minimum of 4 drives per system
CIFS software license
SnapRestore StoreVault Edition - currently FOC
9x5xNBD Advanced Exchange warranty (Hardware only) - Upgrade to 3 Years
9x5 Software Support & Maintenance - 3 Years
2.PE2900 III - Quad-Core Xeon E5420 2.5GHz/2x6MB 1333FSB
English - Documentation and Rack Cord 1
PE2900 III Server Rack Chassis 1
Rack Bezel Assembly 1
16GB 667MHz FBD (8x2GB dual rank DIMMs) 1
PE2900 III - Additional Quad-Core Xeon E5420 2.5GHz/2x6MB 1333FSB 1
No Floppy Drive Option 1
73GB SAS (15,000rpm) 3.5 inch Hard Drive (hot plug) 2
300GB SAS (15,000 rpm) 3.5inch Hard Drive (hot plug) 5
PERC 6/i Internal RAID Controller Card (256MB cache, battery backup) 1
16x SATA DVD 1
Redundant power supply (2 hot plug PSU) 1
Power Cord, PDU (Rack) 1
Display : Not Included 1
Broadcom TCP/IP Offload Engine functionality (TOE) Enabled 1
No Mouse 1
No Keyboard Required 1
English Windows 2003 R2 SP2 Storage Server x64-bit, Standard Edition (HW RAID) With Docs 1
OpenManage Server Software, with CD & documentation 1
Upg to Silver 3Y (24x7) Premier Enterprise Support 1
You have chosen not to take the Dell PowerEdge installation service 1
Base Warranty 1
1YR BASIC NBD ONSITE 1
PE2900 Universal Sliding Versa/Rapid Rack Rails 1
PE2900 III - C3A - RAID1/RAID5 PERC5i/6i
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18th February 2008, 06:49 PM #2
no contest, the storevault every time. WSS is complete and utter shite, avoid like the plague. storevault is miles better as a storage solution.
Originally Posted by itgeek
Last edited by torledo; 18th February 2008 at 06:59 PM.
18th February 2008, 09:11 PM #3
I'm looking at a Jetstor 516is (16 bay SATA/SAS, iSCSI, rest of spec is on google) array and an Infortrend EonStor 16bay SATA iSCSI array at the moment. They both have dual, redundant, hotswap fans/psus etc. and you could get BOTH of them (before disks) for your budget. They will both take drives up to 1TB each, giving 14TB RAID6, but the Jetstor can be attached to 3 more "JBOD arrays" giving you 4*16 drives.
At the moment I'm undecided between the more expensive Jetstor which has come recommended from a friend who uses a fibre-channel one in a commercial environment and the cheaper Eonstor.
Then there is the Dot Hill 12 bay option, which is in between the two for price, but works out most expensive per-bay. Too many choices!
The S500 is surely nothing like £6000 with only 4*250GB SATA disks in it though.
18th February 2008, 10:15 PM #4
Originally Posted by sahmeepee
not heard of jetstor or eonstor, i have heard good things about dothill arrays. Sun OEM there kit as the storedge 3510 and 3511 from what i recall.
Storage pricing is always a funny one, a lot of it depends on which reseller you go with and what kind of deals they can do...pricing can vary somewhat.
I'd certainly want more SATA disks and redundant controller for 5-6k with the storevault. But it does come with a CIFS license which is normally an additional cost option with the proper netapp arrays.
18th February 2008, 10:22 PM #5
We have some dell 2900, they are fairly reliable servers.
19th February 2008, 09:18 AM #6
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Sorry this includes 10 sata drives each 250gig. The one reason I am unsure of the netapp, is that I have never used the interface etc before.
19th February 2008, 09:56 AM #7
If you've got the budget, less than 6K for 2.5tb raw disk space is good value.
Originally Posted by itgeek
As for the interface, i'd imagine you'd be able to do eveything within the storevault manager software, it should be a single pane of glass mgmt - so that's creating volumes (flexvol), snapshots, and restoring snapshots (snaprestore). I'm not up to speed on the differences that exist between the ONTAP OS in the storevault and the fully fledge ONTAP found on the more expensive netapp FAS range. But basically the three main features are there, and don't forget most added cost options available with the FAS filers are either a) very expensive or b) requires a second filer or nearline storage device i.e snapmirror, or c) both.
Plus, on the FAS filers snaprestore and CIFS/NFS licenses cost extra. Whereas with the storevault they're bundled and as with both s500 and FAS ndmp support is included which is a great way of backing up data on the filer.
I would suggest you have a word with the reseller to give you some hands on time or a demo of the interface, as it's a large investment you need to be comfortable in using it.
One thing the ONTAP storevault edition is missing i believe is a cli for configuration from the command line. No great loss as the gui should be able to accomplish everything you need to be able to do. One thing you won't be able to do ever with a storevault is fiber channel. Again for you're situation not a problem.
Hell, even i'm being won over by the storevault and i may be now not go for a netapp FAS array becuase of the cost savings.
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