IP cameras

[ChrisH]

Ok this has been mentioned in a diffferent thread and was off topic so I though I would bring it i here. I have mentioned these to the Head of IT and he seems quiete keen and is going to ask the head about having some. We suffer from a lot of damage in our rooms so just having these cameras to see who has been in would be great.
Dlink DCS-2100+ have been mentioned, has anyone got any up and running they would like to recommend? I would be interested to know how your powering them POE (if possible)?
We are writing our AUP at the moment so will make sure this is in there.

Cheers

Chris

[Geoff]

Nothing can touch the AXIS network cameras.

http://www.axis.com/products/video/camera/index.htm

You can pick them up on dabs.com fairly cheaply.

[Dos_Box]

Agreed. Heres te view from my office (in real time!).

http://212.219.83.214/view/index.shtml

We have an Axis 211. Very nice it is too.

[browolf]

you can find other cameras in google with these expressions:

Axis Video Server (CAM)
inurl:indexFrame.shtml Axis

AXIS Video Live Camera
intitle:"Live View / - AXIS"

AXIS Video Live View
intitle:"Live View / - AXIS" | inurl:view/view.sht

AXIS 200 Network Camera
intitle:"The AXIS 200 Home Page"

Canon Network Camera
intitle:liveapplet inurl:LvAppl

Mobotix Network Camera
intext:"MOBOTIX M1" intext:"Open Menu"

Panasonic Network Camera
intitle:"WJ-NT104 Main Page"

Panasonic Network Camera
inurl:"ViewerFrame?Mode="

Sony Network Camera
SNC-RZ30 HOME

Seyeon FlexWATCH Camera
intitle:flexwatch intext:"Home page ver"

Sony Network Camera
intitle:snc-z20 inurl:home/

webcamXP
"powered by webcamXP" "Pro|Broadcast"

Canon ImageReady
intitle:"remote ui:top page"

[Ric_]

I intend to put an Axis 205 camera in my new server room.

As for PoE, I know that D-Link make power injectors that can be used when a non-PoE switch is being used but I'm not sure if these work with non-D-Link products.

[tarquel]

Damn Chris - you beat me to it lol

I was gonna go one step further and ask if anyone knows a good network / IP cctv camera system to self-install thats easy to set up.

Let me explain a little further...

We had a CCTV system installed 4-ish months ago and its ....well.... crap lol

Its a manually cabled point-to-point affair - not IP or anything - just power & video cables run everywhere, but to add another, you can piggyback the power but not the video cable (whats the point of that lol).

The cables terminate on a BNC-styled port (if which there are 16 in and out ones) and the machine has two HDD's in it - not mirrored, but for additional storage. I think the res of the pictures is about 720 x ?? and its pretty crap as the cameras they used ared day/night ones so we gonna get flood lights everywhere. They start to get all misty as it gets darker - yuck!

The unit has a web interface that can be viewed on a lan (or i'net/vpn perhaps) but its the slowest thing I've ever seen. The interface is only a 10M, not a 10/100, and it displays stuff soo slowly (from a machine on the same switch even) that its jut unusable properly in that way.

Right, is there a unit - like this, but actually good that we can get/setup and install some std Cat5 networking to a few choice areas and put up some WAP's and setup some WiFi IP/Network Cameras?

If your wondering why a seperate network, its because the network isnt the quickest as it is, and having it any slower would be baaaad news for me.

Also, as a side point, can a (IP) telephone system be intregated into this later?

Dunno why I'm bothered about it lol Just cant help of how to get this place out of the bin (as such) lol

Then maybe I'll have a phone in my room (after long last) and be able to CCTV the computer rooms like you are after Chris

Cheers
Nath

PS I saw a cool program I-Catcher or something similar that we tried out with some really cheap creative webcams (before we got the CCTV up and running). I guess a similar thing could be setup (this program was a trial ver naturally so didnt get a chance to play properly with it)

[ChrisH]

I have got several DLINK POE adaptors in ready for distributing over the summer with the APs. I dont see any reason why they wont work with other stuff depending on the power needs. There are different models though with different ouptputs by the look of it.

[browolf]

Originally Posted by Dos_Box

Agreed. Heres te view from my office (in real time!).

http://212.219.83.214/view/index.shtml

We have an Axis 211. Very nice it is too.

it looks like something from twin peaks, all those trees.

[tarquel]

any thought to my above post?

.....anyone? lol

Nath.

[ninjabeaver]

Originally Posted by tarquel

any thought to my above post?

.....anyone? lol

Nath.

I've got 3 D-Link 2100+ in the school at the moment, with 2 more on order. I think they are superb. Easy to setup, view and listen over IP, full colour, auto correcting etc etc etc.

Well worth the £150.

Originally Posted by ChrisH

Ok this has been mentioned in a diffferent thread and was off topic so I though I would bring it i here. I have mentioned these to the Head of IT and he seems quiete keen and is going to ask the head about having some. We suffer from a lot of damage in our rooms so just having these cameras to see who has been in would be great.

Dlink DCS-2100+ have been mentioned, has anyone got any up and running they would like to recommend? I would be interested to know how your powering them POE (if possible)?

We are writing our AUP at the moment so will make sure this is in there.

Cheers

Chris

I've posted before regarding the D-Link 2100+ IP Cams. They've saved me a small fortune in repairs due to vandalism. These last two cameras should cover the rooms that get very little damage. It's also good at capturing other bits. The cameras picked up a fight in the back of a classroom which the teacher managed to miss. 8O . The girl involved got suspended.

[Dos_Box]

Originally Posted by browolf

it looks like something from twin peaks, all those trees.

Funnily enough I'm based at somewhere called the Woodland Centre. And yes, it is quite nice and natury.

[RobC]

Originally Posted by tarquel

Also, as a side point, can a (IP) telephone system be intregated into this later?

You can run an IP phone system on a data network, but you will ideally need switches capable of QoS (Quality of Service) to make sure that no packets are dropped or delayed. We've got a fully IP-based phone system running on our school network based on Avaya equipment.

As for cameras, I've basically said that for our new school building (in 2008, hopefully) we must have proper IP security cameras as at the moment we use an Astraguard system which uses old full length ISA cards (remember them...? :P ) to receive the signal from dedicated cabling (BNC terminators). The software is DOS based & running on P2 systems, which fall over VERY regularly!

[ChrisH]

This is the POE setup I have. The small grey box sits in the cabinet with the power brick. The blue cable would be the cable running through the building carrying data and power terminating at the bigger grey box, which then splits it for the AP.
The only complaint I have is there is no provision to wall mount terminal unit so I got tech to fabricate me something to hold them on the wall.

[tarquel]

er....nice

You're just using powered hubs then or something similar right?

I know I'll kick meself but I cant remember what POE stands for lol

I understand what you have there but what controls & records all the camera? thats what I was trying to ask in this post (http://www.edugeek.net/index.php?nam...ic&p=1219#1219) above.

Cheers,
Nath

[ChrisH]

Power over ethernet.