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    Re: IP cameras

    ahhhh POE....expensive? You got another piccy to show me? I shall re-scrutinise (if thats a word) the photo later

    (I can be a bit of a thicko sometimes lol)

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    Re: IP cameras

    Those cost me £25 a set. You may need a higher model though depending on what the cameras power needs are. I was trying to figure it out yesterday but got distracted
    If theres anything in particular you want to see I will take a photo it is just set up on my workbench at the mo.

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    Re: IP cameras

    Just a bit more detail of the items really - models & pricing wud be handy too.

    Plus the software/system used to record the cameras too wud be handy.

    Whats the quality like on the cameras you got and are they day/night type of cameras?

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    Re: IP cameras

    AXIS do outdoor day/night cameras. The cheapest one is a couple of models up from the one Chris linked to at Woodlands. The quality is comparable though.

    http://www.axis.com/products/cam_221/index.htm

    In 'night mode' it uses low band IR to produce a black and white image. In the unlikely event you get poor images at night you can use an IR lamp to help the camera 'see' better.

    http://www.axis.com/products/cam_irillum/index.htm

    As for actually recording the video output, AXIS do a network video recorder.

    http://www.axis.com/products/cam_262/index.htm

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    Re: IP cameras

    Ah right Tarquel we dont have any cameras yet I was just showing an example of POE used to power a networked device .

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    Re: IP cameras

    I see (soz. got a bit confused earlier lol)

    Thanks for the info

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    Re: IP cameras

    We have 9 Axis cameras around the school, none on POE, all powered from mains. We use the Axis camera software which you buy separately and used an old Bromcom server reconditioned to be the camera server. It just records the last three days. All are set as motion detect, but the birds and the litter set them off!!!! Its not really a good enough system for identifying people but does act as a deterrent.

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    Re: IP cameras

    Agree with everyone else on Axis cameras.

    For recording, there is the Axis software, or the next step is systems from Milestone or Lenel.

    I've just put in a multi camera system with cameras indoors and out with 3 week recording using the Lenel system, but that was picked as I was also doing access control (proximity cards) for 20+ doors.

    The Axis system is probably your best choice - separate modules for viewing and recording. If you are border, make one of the cameras PTZ (Pan, Tilt, Zoom) so you can control it remotely!

    POE is simplest - you always want cameras where it is difficult to get power. If your switches are not PoE, then an injector is fine.

    As for other thing you can do with your network, the sky's the limit. VoIP is simple (but requires a quality network), access control for doors, control of lights, electric blinds and screens...

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    Re: IP cameras

    ..large plasma screens for reception areas...yeah, rings a bell that :-)

    Paul

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    Re: IP cameras

    Has anyone looked at the mobotix cameras? well built and quite pricey so they must be good

    Free software though that looks after all apsects of recording from the cameras so that might save you some money..

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    Re: IP cameras

    We use PoE all over our site with the wireless AP's covering most of the area. We brought 12 PoE 3Com switches initially for the AP's but now we also find them useful for network cameras.

    We have a camera in our office and a couple around on the floor. IP cameras rule. Im having problems getting our internet provider to open a port so we can use it outside of work though

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    Re: IP cameras

    Who is your ISP? Which Port?

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    Re: IP cameras

    We are using Axis 216FD cameras for the past year now, some comments:

    - Dont waste your money on the Axis Camera Station software, it is a rip off, and has LOADS of issues with it. Milestone is a much better package and runs with many different makes of camera - Axis software only works with Axis cameras.

    - You will need a decent network to be able to get quality footage out of the cameras. We have found MPEG4 footage from axis cameras to be so low quality to be useless. The alternative is MJPEG and this means high bandwith. Our 8 cameras are using a constant 15MB/s bandwith.

    - Recording takes a fair bit of processing power. If you do not have enough then the footage will stutter, connections will drop etc. We have 2xP4 2.8ghz servers, 512MB mem, serving 4 cameras each.

    We have tried various CCTV software packages, and none have fulfilled our requirements. I am now working on an in house recording solution as I think its a rip off paying an extra £70 for an Axis license every time we add a camera.

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    Re: IP cameras

    @klawd: As an aside, if you could write a review/comparison of the software that you have tried it might prove very useful to others. Equally, if others have compared similar products, please write a quick report.

    EduGeek would like members to be as involved as possible with the site and one way of doing this is to drop us copies of any such documents that you produce... it saves us all having to do the leg-work again

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