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    Playing French Videos

    Hi all,

    The modern Languages Dept. is on at me to get them some VCRs that will play the french SECAM tapes they have. Our PAL VCRs will read them of course but will only play them in black and white due to the difference in the colour encoding on broadcast.

    I've searched the internet for multi system VCRs but all the ones i have found have been for the american market and state they play meSecam. I know the French system is SECAM L. Does anyone know if these american VCRs will a: work on PAL tvs and b: play French SECAM L tapes.

    Or if anyone has found a true MULTI system VCR could they let me know details.

    Craig Newlyn.
    AV Technician,
    The King’s School,
    Canterbury,
    Kent CT1 2ES.
    cin@kings-school.co.uk

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    As you correctly said, PAL and SECAM consist of 625 lines updating at 50Hz. NTSC consists of 525 lines updating at 60Hz.

    Here's a good reference of which country uses which standard:

    Afghanistan - SECAM & PAL
    Albania - PAL
    Algeria - PAL
    Andorra - PAL
    Angola - PAL
    Antarctica - NTSC
    Antigua & Barbuda - NTSC
    Argentina - PAL
    Armenia - MESECAM
    Aruba - NTSC
    Austrailia - PAL
    Austria - PAL
    Azerbaijan - MESECAM
    Azores - PAL
    Bahamas - NTSC
    Bahrain - PAL
    Bangladesh - PAL
    Barbados - NTSC
    Belgium - PAL
    Belize - NTSC
    Benin - MESECAM Bermuda Island - NTSC
    Boliva - NTSC
    Bosnia - PAL
    Botswana - SECAM Brazil - PAL-M
    British Indian Ocean Territory - NTSC
    Brunei - PAL
    Bulgaria - SECAM Burma - NTSC
    Burundi - MESECAM
    Byelarus -ME SECAM
    Cayman Island - NTSC
    Camaroon - PAL
    Canada - NTSC
    Canary Island - PAL
    Central African Republic - SECAM Chad - SECAM
    Chile - NTSC
    China - PAL
    Columbia - NTSC
    Congo - SECAM Cook Island - PAL
    Costa Rica - NTSC
    Crete - PAL
    Croatia - PAL
    Cuba - NTSC
    Cyprus - PAL
    Czech Republic - PAL
    Denmark - PAL
    Djibouti - SECAM
    Dominica -... NTSC
    Ecuador - NTSC
    Egypt - PAL
    El Salvador - NTSC
    Equatorial Guinea - SECAM vertical
    Estonia - SECAM & PAL
    Ethiopia - PAL
    Falkland Islands - PAL
    Faroe Island - PAL
    Fiji - NTSC
    Finland - PAL
    France - SECAM
    Gabon - SECAM Gambia - PAL
    Georgia - SECAM Germany - PAL
    Ghana - PAL
    Gilbralta - PAL
    Greece - SECAM Greenland - PAL
    Greenland USAFB - NTSC
    Grenada - NTSC
    Guadeloupe - MESECAM
    Guam - NTSC
    Guatemala - NTSC
    Guinea - PAL
    Guyana - NTSC
    Guyana (French) - SECAM
    Haiti - NTSC
    Honduras - NTSC
    Hong Kong - PAL
    Hungary -PAL
    Iceland -PAL
    India -PAL
    Indonesia - PAL
    Iran -ME SECAM Iraq - MESECAM Ireland - PAL
    Israel - PAL
    Italy - PAL
    Ivory Coast - MESECAM
    Jamaica - NTSC
    Japan - NTSC
    Johnston Island - NTSC
    Jordan - PAL
    Kampuchea - PAL
    Kazakhstan - SECAM
    Kenya - PAL
    Korea (North) - PAL & NTSC
    Korea (South) - NTSC
    Kuwait - PAL
    Kyrgyzstan - SECAM
    Laos - PAL
    Lativa - SECAM Lebanon - SECAM vertical
    Lesotho - PAL
    Liberia - PAL
    Libya - PAL
    Lithuania - SECAM Luxembourg - SECAM & PAL
    Macao - PAL
    Macedonia - PAL
    Madagascar - MESECAM
    Madaira - PAL
    Malawi - PAL
    Malaysia - PAL
    Maldives - PAL
    Mali -ME SECAM
    Malta - PAL
    Marshall Islands - NTSC
    Martinique - MESECAM
    Mauritania - MESECAM
    Mauritius - MESECAM
    Mayotte -ME SECAM
    Mexico - NTSC
    Microneisa - NTSC
    Midway Island - NTSC
    Moldava -ME SECAM
    Monaco - SECAM & PAL
    Mongolia - MESECAM
    Montserrat - NTSC
    Morocco - MESECAM Mozambique - PAL
    Myanmar - NTSC
    Nambia - PAL
    Nepal - PAL
    Netherlands - PAL
    Netherlands Antilles - NTSC
    New Caledonia - MESECAM
    New Zeeland - PAL
    Nicaragua - NTSC
    Niger -ME SECAM
    Nigeria - PAL
    Norfolk Island - PAL
    Northern Marina Islands - NTSC
    Norway - PAL
    Okinawa - NTSC
    Oman - PAL
    Pakistan - PAL
    Palau - NTSC
    Panama - NTSC
    Papua New Guinea - PAL
    Paraguay - PAL
    Peru - NTSC
    Philippines - NTSC
    Poland - PAL
    Polynesia (French) -SECAM
    Portugal - PAL
    Puerto Rico - NTSC
    Quatar - PAL
    Reunion - MESECAM Romania - PAL
    Russia - SECAM Samoa (American) - NTSC
    Samoa (Western) - PAL
    Sao Tome - PAL
    Saudi Arabia - SECAM & PAL.
    Senegal - MESECAM
    Seychelles Island - PAL
    Sierra Leone - PAL
    Singapore - PAL
    Slovakia - SECAM & PAL
    Slovenia - PAL
    Somalia - PAL
    South Africa - PAL
    Spain - PAL
    Sri Lanka - PAL
    St. Grenadines - NTSC
    St. Lucia - NTSC
    St. Marino - PAL
    St. Pierre Miquelon - MESECAM
    St. Vincent - NTSC
    St. Kitts - NTSC
    Sudan - PAL
    Surinam - NTSC
    Swaziland -PAL
    Sweden - PAL
    Switzerland - PAL
    Syria - PAL
    Tahiti -MESECAM Taiwan - NTSC
    Tajikistan - MESECAM Tanzania - PAL
    Thailand - PAL
    Togo - MESECAM
    Tonga - NTSC
    Trinadad & Tabago - NTSC
    Tunesi - MESECAM
    Turkey - PAL
    Turkmenistan - MESECAM
    Uganda - PAL
    Ukraine - SECAM
    United Arab Emirates - PAL
    United Kingdom - PAL
    Uruguay - PAL
    USA - NTSC
    Uzbekistan - SECAM
    Venezuela - NTSC
    Vietnam - SECAM & NTSC
    Virgin Island (American) - NTSC
    Virgin Island (British) - NTSC
    Yemen - SECAM & NTSC
    Yugoslavia - PAL
    Zaire -MESECAM
    Zambia - PAL
    Zanzibar - PAL
    Zimbabwe - PAL

    MESECAM appears to be a different standard from standard SECAM, but what the differences are, I'm not entirely sure!
    I've managed to find a VCR which does NTSC/PAL/SECAM, but it isn't cheap! I'm not sure why it's so important that for a language lesson you need to view a video in colour. Your alternative to paying so much for an all in one VCR would be to import some from France itself. In my opinion this would probably be much cheaper!

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    Would it be cheaper in the long run to convert the videos to DVD?

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    I have come across this Samsung beast in my search, but dismissed it thinking I might find a cheaper one. Doesn't look like it. One option is to buy one, then use it to convert all their tapes to dvd.
    Does anyone know of any french suppliers who would ship to the uk.

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    Amazon.fr might be a good start. Beware though, once you have a SECAM player, it will output the signal in SECAM. You still need to convert to PAL. If I was at work I'd look up the name of the box I use. I think CPC do one, but I'm not sure.

    I did have the same problem, and once DVD writing became sensible, I did what has been suggested and converted them all. Saves having SECAM players scattered around the dept.

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    Yes CPC do one,

    Begs the question, will it convert the output from a PAL VCR playing a SECAM tape into a PAL output.

    Saves buying the french VCR at all.

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    Nope. Sorry!

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    Just a thought,
    Is it the VCR that's at fault or the TV you are playing them on?
    Is it possible to bypass the PAL system of your TV (by using Scart, RGB, or whatever) or maybe even use a monitor rather than a TV tuner?

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    Both need to be SECAM capable, or you need to use a converter to turn the VCR output into PAL.

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    Re: Playing French Videos

    You could buy a SECAM TV as well as a VCR

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