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    The Geforce 610M is usually below the abilities of HD4000, certainly no good for anything other than casual gaming.

    You can build a mid-range gaming PC for £400 - not a monster but something that can tackle modern games at 1080P with medium/high detail. That wouldn't include OS license. Laptop wise, that Dell from the outlet is the best chance by a mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-gtech View Post
    The Geforce 610M is usually below the abilities of HD4000, certainly no good for anything other than casual gaming.

    You can build a mid-range gaming PC for £400 - not a monster but something that can tackle modern games at 1080P with medium/high detail. That wouldn't include OS license. Laptop wise, that Dell from the outlet is the best chance by a mile.
    Which Dell is that. The 17r??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-gtech View Post
    The Geforce 610M is usually below the abilities of HD4000, certainly no good for anything other than casual gaming.

    You can build a mid-range gaming PC for £400 - not a monster but something that can tackle modern games at 1080P with medium/high detail. That wouldn't include OS license. Laptop wise, that Dell from the outlet is the best chance by a mile.
    This way i'd say the dell 17r was batter one for the two...

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    In the end you get what you pay for and £400 for what you want out of a laptop is asking a bit much..... It may do what you want it to do now! but what about in a year or2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Which Dell is that. The 17r??
    Yeah. I'd agree with you w-clarke101, it's better value than a self built desktop at this price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    @witch

    Saw this in one of my emails this morning

    Deal: £492 Dell Inspiron 17R laptop with full HD display | ITProPortal.com

    Also wondering if it would be worth while looking on the Dell Refurbished laptops may get a good spec laptop for a bit cheaper ??

    £492 after using the voucher code ??
    I know it is £92 over budget but I think this laptop is the best one ive found / seen so far. Unless you can find a refurbed one or maybe a 2nd hand jobby off of ebay ( from an ebay store or the likes ) ?

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    I know it isn't much money but that is all he has and his current laptop is a 6 year old Dell we bought him when he went to Uni - it is failing so he can't hang around and save up some more.
    I will show him all this and see what he thinks
    Thank you all very much for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    I know it isn't much money but that is all he has and his current laptop is a 6 year old Dell we bought him when he went to Uni - it is failing so he can't hang around and save up some more.
    I will show him all this and see what he thinks
    Thank you all very much for your help
    Backup data, dban the hard drive or take it out and try and sell it as spares / repairs or something along those lines for £100 or whatever it is worth ( which should give them the difference to afford the extra ?

    Or as per another suggestion ref getting £100 cash back on a laptop when ordering through toshiba ? Wonder if Dell do something like that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    Wonder if Dell do something like that?
    No cashback, but there are usually lots of discount codes available. dmxdimension.com is a good site to check for these (in addition to HUKD).

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    Laptop not good enough for cashback - we tried - but will look for codes.
    He is now thinking about building his own as he doesn't need a fancy case etc. Has sent me this:

    3.1ghz quad core i5 8gb ram 1tb hdd 6670 gpu £405 or upgrade to i7 for +£100 (including cheap case, reasonable power supply, basic dvd drive) Dont know if your lot can get cheaper parts, or know somewhere else to look?

    Any thoughts please?

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    Any thoughts before he makes his final decision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Any thoughts before he makes his final decision?
    Make sure whatever mobo he buys is latest spec - older spec may be cheaper but will seriously limit future upgrade potential
    Make sure the PSU is good quality from a well known manufacturer - a cheap PSU can cause endless seemingly unrelated problems and in the worst case destroy much more expensive parts

    This thread might be worth a skim read: Building a gaming PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    Laptop not good enough for cashback - we tried - but will look for codes.
    He is now thinking about building his own as he doesn't need a fancy case etc. Has sent me this:

    3.1ghz quad core i5 8gb ram 1tb hdd 6670 gpu £405 or upgrade to i7 for +£100 (including cheap case, reasonable power supply, basic dvd drive) Dont know if your lot can get cheaper parts, or know somewhere else to look?

    Any thoughts please?
    Usual pitfulls on budget specs - does the prices include monitor, keyboard, mouse, operating system? Or are these being carried over from another system. In the case of OS that will mean already having a full retail copy (if using Windows).

    PSU - Personally I'd look for 85+ Bronze rated, but they tend to cost a bit more. That said worth it as it can seriously improve the lifespan of the final build.

    Personally I'd go for a lower spec CPU and a higher spec GPU. Perhaps entry level i3 with a HD7000 series GPU, for gaming.

    I'd also consider a smaller HDD if it releases more money for a better spec PSU/Motherboard/GPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I'd also consider a smaller HDD if it releases more money for a better spec PSU/Motherboard/GPU.
    Only thing to consider there would be how much video editing he's going to be doing - nothing will eat through your HDD space quicker than video projects!

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    One of the advantages of building it yourself (or himself) is that you can upgrade individual components as necessary. £400 isn't a lot, but if you shop around you could get a decent spec desktop PC as a starting point, using a motherboard with decent onboard graphics. Then if he finds the graphics performance isn't up to it, he can add a higher spec graphics card later...
    If you/he hasn't time to do the research and locate all the components, you could ask someone like Very PC to quote you on a few options...

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