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Hardware Thread, Recommend me a laptop with non-integrated graphics please in Technical; Originally Posted by LosOjos I suppose, but then it's only really an issue if you need to take it in ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    I suppose, but then it's only really an issue if you need to take it in to school/uni with you.

    Don't get me wrong, if portability is an issue then laptops are great obviously, but if you're only ever going to use it at home then you can get a lot more bang for your buck with a PC.
    When you say PC as in desktop :-). At least that's what I understood or gathered from the above comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac_shinobi View Post
    When you say PC as in desktop :-). At least that's what I understood or gathered from the above comment
    Yeah but specifically a Windows desktop in this case.

    I suppose I should be more specific, not everyone shares my categorisation!
    - PC: desktop computer (Windows or Linux, though I'd mention Linux specifically)
    - Laptop: any Windows or Linux laptop, again I'd mention Linux specifically
    - Mac (obvious)
    - MacBook (also obvious)

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    I think one thing to take from this thread is that £400 is still not a lot for a gaming laptop - or PC. Sure you'll get more bang for your buck out of a PC, but building your own you still have the thorny issue of a copy of Windows (£80 OEM) so still doesn't leave much for all the other components. On this budget, for gaming, I'd look at a prebuilt system from someone like Zoostorm then getting a seperate £50-£100 graphics card. I don't think it's worth building a gaming PC on a less than £500 budget, being realistic.

    I still think on that budget the best deals to be had for gaming are secondhand.

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    GTAV was just an example of the level of game - I know it isn't on PC yet - not quite that much of a dinosaur...yet...

    I have advocated building his own PC and it is true that his laptop rarely leaves his house but he says he will need to move it sometimes.
    What could he do for the price if he built his own and what would he look for? I am really inexperienced in this sort of thing so all advice gratefully received

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    @tmcd Yes, you are right I am sure - just a bit leery of buying secondhand with any certainty that it isn't a bad deal. Apart from ebay, where would I look?
    A pre-built with a separate graphics card looks good.
    £400 is just for the computer btw - licencing not included in that

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    @tmcd Yes, you are right I am sure - just a bit leery of buying secondhand with any certainty that it isn't a bad deal. Apart from ebay, where would I look?
    A pre-built with a separate graphics card looks good.
    £400 is just for the computer btw - licencing not included in that
    Was that Dell 17R too much then and what about a refurbed computer( whether desktop or laptop ) from dell or the likes ?

    http://www.dell.co.uk/outlet
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    Nothing on Dell outlet for the price. I know price is a problem which is why I thought I would ask the guys who know...

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    First one is filtered here Second one - too expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    First one is filtered here Second one - too expensive
    Well the First one is Asus K55VD-SX909H Core i3-2350M 6GB 500GB NVIDIA GeForce 610M-2GB DVD 15.6" Windows 8 maybe look at that one at home.

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    screenshot of first one

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    First one is filtered here Second one - too expensive
    ImageUploadedByEduGeek1379501824.005254.jpg
    ImageUploadedByEduGeek1379501841.438656.jpg

    Couple of screen grabs from the first link

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    GTAV was just an example of the level of game - I know it isn't on PC yet - not quite that much of a dinosaur...yet...
    Dinosaur Pirate Witch.

    The triple threat.

    Gaming wise, if you spec for Crysis 3 on the highest settings you can [possibly] play everything else. [Crysis 1 was a beast to run... not sure if that's changed.]

    Another game to possibly spec for, if you go for nVidia, would be the Tomb Raider reboot with TressFX on. [TressFX was/is broken on nVidia.]

    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    I know price is a problem which is why I thought I would ask the guys who know...
    That's the thing, though.

    Proper gaming laptops are really expensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    First one is filtered here
    Processor Model: I3-2350M
    Display Size: 15.6 in
    Installed Memory: 6 GB
    Hard Drive Capacity: 500 GB
    Operating System: Windows 8 Home Premium
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 610M

    £399.99 [not sure on delivery.]

    Mine has a GeForce 630M and I struggle to run some things on higher settings. It's not a beast, but it could work.


    Le EDIT: Ninja'd THREE TIMES?!
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    Desktop wise again get a quote from @VeryPC or call novatech and see if they could tweak the low end gaming rig for £400

    http://m.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/nov...lacknta12.html

    Could get them to lower the ram to 2gb, 500gb hdd instead of 2tb and maybe a different amd cpu ? Although there base units come without an OS

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    Which video editing software will your son by using?

    Which games will he be playing?

    Sadly in both cases I do not think £400 for either a desktop or laptop will be enough.

    Gaming wise you could probably push something ok for about £600-700, but then adding the video editing requirements will probably bump this price up for extra ram / storage.

    Very difficult situation (unless you know someone selling an older gaming system that is willing to sell for a reasonable price)

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