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    Spec for a new PDC in a Primary School

    I'm looking to implement a new server as the PDC/GC etc and demote the current 5 year old server to MIS duties (replacing an even older server) and a DFS replica.

    Spec so far -
    Server 2012
    HP ProLiant ML310e Gen8 - Xeon E3-1220V2 3.1 GHz
    2x 500Gb Sata drives mirrored (Maybe SSDs)
    4x 3Tb Sata drives in RAID 10
    16Gb RAM

    We primarily have light usage, with more media use and network streaming.
    We currently deploy with WDS, would it be worth getting System Center 2012 R2?

    Additionally, would you consider running two virtualised OS' on this hardware? What would be its pros and cons?

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    I've got an number of slightly older servers for great prices if you wanted some options? Take a look at the website or drop me an email if you have anything specific in mind

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    What's a PDC?

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    Primary domain controller - No pun intended!

    I wouldn’t virtualise the sever, as there is no real advantage in doing so with this size deployment and it will just add an additional layer of complexity.
    I would suggest, if you haven’t already considered it, that you look at the current switching and network infrastructure, improvements here can offer a significant performance increase for modest outlay and can often be attributed to the poor performance of the “network”
    Last edited by djm968; 4th June 2013 at 03:17 PM.

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    You still running NT then...

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    I'd advise against using SCCM 2012 R2 in such a small deployment unless you've got lots of experience already, as it's quite a complex thing to use for the benefits you get. I'd go for WSUS+Local Update Publisher for updates/apps, and MDT+WDS for deployment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    You still running NT then...
    No the OP is looking for advice for a server solution for a Primary School! I thought you were asking a genuine question and you were about to post a valued opinion….. obviously I was wrong!

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    put a new server in a small primary last year.
    used a single socket Xeon HP DL360 with 8GB RAM and R5 (around 300GB in size)
    not virtual but for what the school needed its ideal (25 desktops some laptops)

    been bomb proof so far and was very impressed with the pricing and the software tools for the HP kit

    they only have around 150GB of data currently and thats going back over (in some cases) 6-7 years of old resources and such like
    so your storage spec has ALOT of room for growth
    Last edited by SHimmer45; 4th June 2013 at 03:29 PM.

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    @djm968 were running managed Cisco switches, 1Gb fiber backbone and 100Mb to the desktops, not really seeing any usage issues in solarwinds to warrant the upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djm968 View Post
    I wouldn’t virtualise the sever, as there is no real advantage in doing so with this size deployment
    I would, benefits of simplified DR are worth it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHimmer45 View Post
    they only have around 150GB of data currently and thats going back over (in some cases) 6-7 years of old resources and such like
    so your storage spec has ALOT of room for growth
    With the price of drives I would rather over spec. We currently have about 600Gb knocking around, just thinking what our use would be like in 5 years at EOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    I would, benefits of simplified DR are worth it alone.
    and for migration later when the hardware needs replacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    I would, benefits of simplified DR are worth it alone.
    I'm swinging towards at least 1 virtualised DC, I have a Microserver that has several VMs of various bits and bobs that would run a DR in an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    I would, benefits of simplified DR are worth it alone.
    IMHO virtualisation for simplified DR only really makes sense if you are running more than one physical host in a farm.

    But what do I know.... "i'm still running NT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHR1S View Post
    I'm swinging towards at least 1 virtualised DC, I have a Microserver that has several VMs of various bits and bobs that would run a DR in an emergency.
    Yes, virtualisation in that case makes much more sense.



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