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    SAN SUPPLIERS

    I'm possibly in the market for a new SAN as one of the dual controllers has died on ours and can't be replaced without replacing the whole thing (less the drives). So before I do that I'm looking at moving away from the current manufacturer (Dot Hill) to one that is a little more reliable and can support the replacement of parts for more than 3 years!

    Roughly, I'd be looking for, as a bare minimum something on the lines of;

    30TB of disk space made up of 20TB SAS drives and 10TB SATA drives
    2 x Dual 10GB Port controllers (iSCSI)
    Allows for expansion in the future
    Is VMWare compatible

    Any recommendations on suppliers to approach?
    Any recommedations on models to avoid?

    Thanks

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    I know @Millgate does SAN's and was competitive when we were looking to purchase both our SAN's

    What I would say though is that NetApp is brilliant
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    Are you looking to rehome the drives, might be able to transfer them to the new unit with new caddies.

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    We've recently moved almost all our SANs to EMC VNX and are very happy so far - but depend show much you're willing to drop.

    I will say, if you're looking at HP, avoid the MSA 20xx range and start at least at the 23xx range for the amount of drives you're looking at. The p4500s are also a very good bet from them, but a bit further up the price scale.

    Based on anecdotal reports from lots of people I'd also avoid the Oracle SANs - since they bought them off Sun there's been some very unhappy people about. but I've not used them myself.
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    Hi Alan,

    As RTFM says, we deal with Sans. I'll put something together for you now

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    I've heard some very good things about Nimble SANs - saw a couple of product demos in the autumn and the performance was amazing.

    I'm going to look at those next year when my Netapp is due for replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    We've recently moved almost all our SANs to EMC VNX and are very happy so far - but depend show much you're willing to drop.
    We looked at EMC when we were deciding but when we asked for a demo they said they couldn't as they used a NetApp and hadnt moved over yet.......was slightly worrying!

    I think the new EMC range was just out at the time though. Everything we had seen of it we liked just not being able to get a demo wasn't great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    Are you looking to rehome the drives, might be able to transfer them to the new unit with new caddies.
    I have the option of buying another Dot Hill SAN and transfering the drives across and hope they work, or getting rid of Dot Hill altogether as our main SAN. After transferring the data across I was thinking of using the old SAN for a test\backup environment where failure of the remaining controller won't upset as many users

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    We've recently moved almost all our SANs to EMC VNX and are very happy so far - but depend show much you're willing to drop.
    Apologies for being stupid but what do you mean?

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    Gah, no I apologise for my awful typing...my excuse is I posted in a rush.

    should read "depends on how much you're willing to drop" - as in, they're pretty pricey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    Gah, no I apologise for my awful typing...my excuse is I posted in a rush.

    should read "depends on how much you're willing to drop" - as in, they're pretty pricey
    woohoo I'm not alone in the gash typing stakes!

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    Hey Alan,

    If you're looking for another option to the traditional SAN providers, we can provide ISCSI SAN's based on Supermicro / Intel hardware with Microsoft Storage Server providing the storage management layer.

    I'll pm my details if you want to have a chat and look at some options.

    Thanks,

    Ed

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    Nimble... we have just started supplying them and they are really good

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    i got my p4500 from @CPLTD in the summer.

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    We used to have Sun storage and was brilliant until Oracle bought them out.

    We are now using Dell Equallogic kit, which is very good especially as our whole virtualised stack is Dell, so we only have one port of call in case of issues. Before our virtualisation stack was 3 different manufacturers and we did get in a nasty situation where each vendor was blaming each other for the failure.

    EMC kit is very good, HP some people really like, NetApp some people love whereas others aren't too impressed by it.

    All I would say is, do get pricing for more than one manufacturer and haggle hard, playing them off against each other as you'll be amazed how quickly certain manufacturers will suddenly come back with some very special bid pricing once they know other storage vendors are bidding.

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