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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    I have only setup Windows Server 2003 Standard & Enterprise. Apparently SBS (Small Business Server) is really simple. To be honest its not that hard to set it up for Standard & Enterprise.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    SBS is wizard based you shouldnt really have many problems on initial setup, there should be a setup guide on the MS site link I posted. Also check out the forum on smallbizserver.net that should give you some clues as to the kind of problems you may encounter.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    windows XP can network upto 10 computers without having to use a server.
    That might be a cheaper solution, without adding to Mr Gates retirement fund!

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    But you can make a network allot more secure with a server. How will the computers be connected to the network? Ethernet? Wireless? You also might want to note that:

    Only one computer in a domain can be running Windows Server 2003 for Small Business Server.
    Windows Small Business Server must be the root of the Active Directory forest.
    Windows Small Business Server cannot trust any other domains. It cannot have any child domains.
    Windows Small Business Server is limited to 75 users or devices depending on which type of CAL.
    Terminal Services only operates in remote administration mode on the server running Small Business Server, and only two simultaneous RDP sessions are allowed. (Change from SBS 2000 policy)
    To remove these restrictions and upgrade to regular editions of Windows Server, Exchange Server, SQL Server and ISA Server, there is a Windows Small Business Server 2003 R2 Transition Pack.

    But this probably wont effect you.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    We do have a current network with XP in the office, but it is getting far to slow to work with as work picks up, i think the server is the way to go for us as we will be expanding in the near future also.

    The computers will be connected via ethernet, guess we need an ethernet switch too then..

    James

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    What speed is the ethernet at? I would recomend 100mbs. I agree the server is the way forward.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    this switch should be ok for what you want http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119339

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    It would be - 2x Broadcom¬ģ NetXtreme 5721 Single Port Gigabit Ethernet NIC, Cu, PCIe, guess that is at 100mbs?? also found this switch so that should do it

    James

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    Yes that would do but from the experience of dell switches i have had never again for me! But do you need a new one?

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    Not really, i could have a look on fleabay to see what is around, any good makes for them then?

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    What good makes of switches, Cisco are probably the bets make but it's debateable.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    I would go for a true SBS 2003 Setup. My local charity used to run a network that sounds just like yours and it was semi-ok, but they all agree now that a server was the right way to go. You get MS Exchange, SQL, Central usernames, central backup, storage etc all in one box which makes it brilliant.

    HP often have offers on the ML110 servers with SBS2003 R2 thrown on them so you just turn them on and configure them and its all done. There are many good books out there on SBS 2003 so get one of them they are great, I have the MS Press one and its very handy for just checking as it does have a couple of small little qwerks that 2003 Std doesn't do.

    So get one and don't worry you won't regret it.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    Hi,

    I would definatly recomend Dell for your server and clients, as for your network switches your pc's may come with Gigabit network cards so go with Gigabit Switches you can pick some desktop ones up for about £30 for 8 Ports i understand you will only have 10 clients but it's there for any future expansion and will be fast for Imaging, if you decide to do this.

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    Thanks for the messages.

    We got the server yesterday and have been trying to set it up. Having a few problems mind due..

    Would anyone on here who lives around Croydon / London like to help me set it up and run it through with me? If so PM or post a message and we can discuss costs etc..

    Many thanks,
    James

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    Re: Server newbie for a small business

    Word of warning on cheap gigabit switches..

    I have an 8 port Netgear gigabit (one of the prosafe ones) and two Dell servers, a 430 series and an 840 series. Both have Broadcom network cards. The Netgear switch would keep dropping the link when the network was under load. (only 3 devices connected, all gig) resulting in temp network failure. It seemed fine on Realtek network cards.

    Plugged it into a Dell PowerConnect 2324, it was fine, Plugged it into a HP 2324 with Gig expansion, and its fine. Just the switch. I recommend the PowerConnect 2324 (24 10/100 ports and 2 gig ports) cheap, does the job and will allow future expansion.

    Craig

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