That phone number takes me to an avaya messaging collect service!!Originally Posted by paul
ROFLMAO... well be grateful you didn't get "Sexy Sue's escort service"... that would have been an interesting meeting with the head and bursar...Originally Posted by DSapseid
This might be a bit more help
that would be funny!
I would second the Small Business Server option, its very good I support a few local charities running it and its great
if you're looking at the PE2950 go with the PERC controller - this will allow you to have a 2 disk hardware mirror plus a 4 disk (or up to 6 disk with the 2.5" drives) RAID 5 set - no software mirrors YAY!!. PERC controllers are availabe for either PCIx or PCIe backplanes. Obviously PCIe is the newer standard and the PCI-x backplane does come with 1 PCIe x8 lane slot. The choice is up to you....Originally Posted by contink
From memory you can't do RAID 5 with the SAS integrated controller. Both the PERC 5i and SAS have internal channel(s) hence the i designation....Dell do a more expensicve PERC 5e for connecting to an external SAS array.
The newer SAS arrays do onboard hardware RAID so you don't need to suffer with host based RAID for your external disk shelf - but they still lack the flexibility of iscsi and fc arrays which also have onboard, often dual redundant controllers...plus if you have a fc or ethernet fabric you can scale beyond the 2-4 servers of a typical external SAS direct attached storage solution. (so that's SAS host and disk connectivity whereas iSCSI is iSCSI/ethernet host connections and SATA or SAS disk connections)
To be honest best design practice is to centralise your storage - go with PE1950's or DL360G5's or even SUN X4100 pizza boxes with a couple of disks for your OS on each host and have RAID-5 / RAID 1+0 / RAID 6 (or whatever your application requirements are stored on iscsi arrays) then setup vlans or lun masking or any other iscsi/fc fabric tricks to prevent corruption and improve security. Really elegant solution - all your exchange, SQL, CIFS data is on your arrays...single point of backup, outstanding performance, great fault tolerance/redundancy. Who wants the hassle of data islands when iscsi is tried and tested and relatively cheap. You also have the option of setting up an easy to manage exchange cluster with iscsi.
But i think i'm getting a bit ahead of my self - your priory is to get a simple setup for a small exchange solution...becoming a SAN guru is something to aspire to when you've removed this particular albatross from around your neck
*just had to edit this post to amend an error i made regarding the PCI configuration options of the PE2950
Has anyone built a server recently? I'm looking to replace our admin server. Doesn't need to be Deep Thought. A 2.8GH Pentium 4 should do it. Any recommendations for a mobo? The plan is to backup to tape, is there an efficient, cost effective alternative to Veritas? I've never got NTBackup to work with AIT drives.Originally Posted by FN-Greatermanchester
Buy a complete system as it will have been tested with the major OS's. I would also get a 3 year warranty as it a server. What the budget for the box?
BTW: Core 2 duo's now or AMD
Just received a quote for a Dell Poweredge 840 that was much better than I anticipated. So I will probably go that route.
Good idea. I don't know about anyone else but I just don't have the time or inclinication to build my own server. I don't mind swapping out components of an existing server or add components to a relatively bare box but to spec one out from scratch is not my cup of tea.Originally Posted by laserblazer
BTW you were asking about a cheaper alternative to backup exec....well backup exec IS the cheap option for those who can't afford the enteprise grade stuff i.e Veritas NBU, Tivoli, Networker or Commvault.
> Has anyone built a server recently? I'm looking to replace our admin
> server. Doesn't need to be Deep Thought. A 2.8GH Pentium 4 should
> do it. Any recommendations for a mobo? The plan is to backup to
> tape, is there an efficient, cost effective alternative to Veritas? I've
> never got NTBackup to work with AIT drives.
Yes, I spent the summer building "servers" out of any random bits of computer equipment that happened to be lying around the place. This was only cheaper because we already had some bits available, though - buying a server off Dell was a lot less palavar and probably just as cheap.
Tape backup: personally, I don't get what's so good about tapes. I figure it's just as cheap, and a lot easier, to use caddied SATA harddrives - removeable harddrive caddies are ¬£30 or so, and harddrives now go up to 1TB in size.
Processor: Our Dell server came with two 4-core processors and 4GB of RAM. That's effectivly 8 512MB machines in one (well, kinda, ish...). Works very nicly as a thin client server, and should work just as nicly as a server to run virtual machines on. Smoosh all your existing servers into one piece of hardware!
RAID: We bought the SATA 2 harddrives for a 3 element RAID 5 array off of eBay rather than buy them from Dell with the machine. The machine's OS is running on the super-fast SAS drive that comes with the machine, though.
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