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Hardware Thread, Chromebook Usage in School - Opinions please! in Technical; Originally Posted by psydii Can't you do something funky.. Like allow access to google without auth, but then require it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by psydii View Post
    Can't you do something funky.. Like allow access to google without auth, but then require it for everything else.. Which should allow you to log into the chrome book (and this give you an audit trail), but as soon as the user wandered off to another domain they would be required to authenticate to check they had the appropriate level of filtering?
    I've tried that. I've allowed gstatic.com/generate_204 and clients3.google.com to bypass auth in Smoothwall, as per dave.81's suggestion.

    Still staring at the "Network is not available"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcstru View Post
    Thanks for sharing - esp the Smoothwall.

    How are you tackling printing?
    If you use Papercut V14 (I think you can with v13.5 too) you can set up google cloud print and then get users when on site to release the jobs through a weblink to their user details on the print server

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    Quote Originally Posted by HTCPCP View Post
    We have about 90 chromebooks in the school now, and have just managed to get hold of the google management system which we are about to start rolling out to the chromebooks (will tell you what it's like as soon as we have the paperwork come through).
    Did you have to purchase a license for each Chromebook you want to manage with the management system?

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    Yes you have to have a licence for each Chromebook (got about 90 onsite and another 60 about to be ordered). The licences cost £19 unless someone can tell me a cheaper place to get them.

    Oh and you have to buy at least 5 (or is it 6?). I often try to have a few extra just incase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverWorked View Post
    Still staring at the "Network is not available"
    There are a few more domains you may need to unblock...

    https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2589954

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjduk View Post
    Yes you have to have a licence for each Chromebook (got about 90 onsite and another 60 about to be ordered). The licences cost £19 unless someone can tell me a cheaper place to get them.

    Oh and you have to buy at least 5 (or is it 6?). I often try to have a few extra just incase.
    Thats what we were quoted but we didn't know we had to buy at least 5.... only wanted one to see what it was like.

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    We're still having issues getting ours through the Smoothwall... We can put our Google username/password and it goes off and then returns a "Network is not available" error but if we put the incorrect password in then Google returns that we entered an incorrect password. So it goes off ok but then won't allow the Chrome book to get any further than the sign-in page.

    We've entered the below into an authentication exception:

    Code:
    gstatic.com/generate_204
    accounts.google.com
    clients3.google.com
    talk.google.com
    drive.google.com
    googleapis.com
    ssl.gstatic.com
    docs.google.com
    drive.google.com
    googleusercontent.com
    
    Anyone got any ideas?

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    Chromebooks will let you do 802.1x authentication on a per-user basis... that may be an option with the ruckus gear.

    Be aware that putting stuff in auth exception does *not* mean it is automatically allowed: quite the opposite, you can find that depending on your rules these sites now get blocked because the user browsing is in "unauthenticated users". The policy test tool can prove this if needed.

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    I think Chromebooks in a school is a great idea and a way to ween people off being tied to a domain to get access to what they want/need to do, etc.

    I would also promote them for KS4 and KS5 students but go with tablets for KS3 where they are exploring more whereas the former need to type reports, etc.

    I use a Chromebook myself as it's so quick to be ready to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaminben View Post
    Anyone got any ideas?
    You may want to try the following URLs if the ones in post #35 do not work.

    Code:
    accounts.google.com
    accounts.youtube.com
    clients1.google.com
    clients2.google.com
    clients3.google.com
    clients4.google.com
    commondatastorage.googleapis.com
    cros-omahaproxy.appspot.com
    dl.google.com
    dl-ssl.google.com
    gweb-gettingstartedguide.appspot.com
    m.google.com
    m.safebrowsing-cache.google.com
    omahaproxy.appspot.com
    pack.google.com
    safebrowsing.google.com
    safebrowsing-cache.google.com
    ssl.gstatic.com
    storage.googleapis.com
    tools.google.com
    www.googleapis.com
    www.gstatic.com
    Source: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/...#sslinspection
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    @jaminben. Another site worth visiting is the Google Apps Toolbox. The "Browser Info" page will automatically check to see if any of Google's domains are blocked.

    Last edited by Arthur; 29th April 2014 at 09:11 PM.

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    @Arthur Thanks for those... we phoned Smoothwall and got sorted in 5 mins.

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