What do you think of this Managed Print Solution?

[10101010]

hi

I have a question for you all on mono printers

At the moment I buy old refurbed hp laser printers and fix them in house where possible.

A company have approached me with a managed print solution - this is the deal -

they loan me Kyocera FS2100DN
Initial upfront costs - I have to purchase from them two original toners (25,000 yield based on 5%) at £220.00 each
After that I can then buy their remanufactured toners at £160 each same yield
Any part replacements covered ie drum or fuser - no further cost
Next day business for any repairs required - no further cost
No fixed term agreement - I can stop anytime I want and the printers will be collected
no leasing agreement
No cost per page - you just buy the toners.

Is anyone using a similar scheme at the moment?

[jamesreedersmith]

Quick google says they dont do a toner with that yeild - normal for that printer is 12500 at about £80 for a remanufactured.

[Millgate]

Hi @10101010,

We do managed print contracts so if you let me know the details etc, I'll put something together for you

Luke

[10101010]

I know - they tell it's something they've worked on with Kyocera

[localzuk]

Might be worth naming the company...

[10101010]

Vitesse plc

[sonofsanta]

My bullsh1t alarm is going off at that - sounds a dodgy business model, or at least a business model used by a lot of dodgy companies. Far too much scamming goes on WRT printer toners.

[TecD]

hi

I have a question for you all on mono printers

At the moment I buy old refurbed hp laser printers and fix them in house where possible.

A company have approached me with a managed print solution - this is the deal -

they loan me Kyocera FS2100DN
Initial upfront costs - I have to purchase from them two original toners (25,000 yield based on 5%) at £220.00 each
After that I can then buy their remanufactured toners at £160 each same yield
Any part replacements covered ie drum or fuser - no further cost
Next day business for any repairs required - no further cost
No fixed term agreement - I can stop anytime I want and the printers will be collected
no leasing agreement
No cost per page - you just buy the toners.

Is anyone using a similar scheme at the moment?

If i was to hazard a guess it seems like they are offering an old refurb/second hand machine they have laying around that's only worth around £100 and with those toner prices they are only worth around £80 anyway so they making £140 per toner and then £80 on the refurb toners after that which pays for the cost of the machine. Looking on their website they look like a toner company so thats where they make their profit.

[tmcd35]

We had a Konica Minolta rep in the other day to look at renewing our photocopier contracts. Looking at out current toner replacement costs and printer life-cycle, we're very tempted by their offer. Especially as it would effectively mean replacing all our 10ppm mono printers with 35ppm colour printers at almost no cost!

[localzuk]

If i was to hazard a guess it seems like they are offering an old refurb/second hand machine they have laying around that's only worth around £100 and with those toner prices they are only worth around £80 anyway so they making £140 per toner and then £80 on the refurb toners after that which pays for the cost of the machine. Looking on their website they look like a toner company so thats where they make their profit.

Those printers are about £280 new. Black toners for it are about £68 each. A 3 year full accidental damage policy would only be about £40 as well.

So, that deal is awful, whatever way you look at it.

[TecD]

We had a Konica Minolta rep in the other day to look at renewing our photocopier contracts. Looking at out current toner replacement costs and printer life-cycle, we're very tempted by their offer. Especially as it would effectively mean replacing all our 10ppm mono printers with 35ppm colour printers at almost no cost!

There is always cost, if something sounds too good to be true it usually is!