Hardware Thread, Require new PCs in Technical; Edit: just looked at Stone's website, no prices. I'm always suspicious of companies who can't/won't put their prices on their ...
12th October 2012, 11:17 AM #31
Prices change too often and there are so many options in terms of custom build. How would a company EVER be able to list all the options you can have, and give you an accurate price?
Edit: just looked at Stone's website, no prices. I'm always suspicious of companies who can't/won't put their prices on their website.
You ask for price. You get. It's that easy. ;-)
12th October 2012, 11:18 AM #32
Just a helpful idea if its hard for you to decide I know stone if you spoke to them would send you out an evaluation machine to test, Rm would probably do the same aswell as others. It is nice to actually have a evaluation machine in front of you to see if it builds correctly etc makes decision making that much easier especially if your going to buy a large quantity. I am in the process of getting an evaluation machine from stone.
Originally Posted by Chuckster
12th October 2012, 11:18 AM #33
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You can't custom make components. You can only custom a build through asking for components. e.g I want a low voltage I3 2120, gigabyte H61M-S2PV, WD RD HDD, Kingston RAM. All manufactures that say they build custom can do this, unlike HP who use only seagate HDD's for example.
12th October 2012, 11:22 AM #34
Here - most machines come from ICT Direct. Upgraded to three year warranty, we've bought HP DC7700, DC7800, DC7900 and Lenovo M58P machines from them, always been great service. Older tech, but with lots of DDR3 in the Lenovos and an SSD, they're plenty quick enough; for a shade over £200.
12th October 2012, 11:24 AM #35
@VeryPC will do you a trial unit too i expect
Originally Posted by north-ict
12th October 2012, 01:28 PM #36
I dunno, other companies (Dell, Apple, etc) manage it. And then tell you discounts are available for edu. I don't like the idea of companies hiding behind that excuse and requiring me to talk to a sales numpty every time I need a guide price (even then being wrong because he's waiting to see what the competition offers so he can under cut). Sure the final price might be lower, but at least have a website that lets me see what's on offer and some ball park prices. How else am I supposed to know if I want an i7 or an i5, or possibility of affording an SSD, etc.
Originally Posted by Edu-IT
The problem with their model is they force you to talk to a sales numpty, who'll take all your details and continue to arras you for the next three years despite the fact you've decided not to buy anything.
To be fair, never dealt with Stone, and their customer service may very well be better than that. But to the website isn't sending out the right messages.
12th October 2012, 02:06 PM #37
We bought some custom build zoostorm machines from idns - good price- good customer service, 3 or 5 yr warrantys
no probs at all.
pm me if you want the account manager number---- he is a nice northern lad--lol
12th October 2012, 02:20 PM #38
Originally Posted by FN-GM
We also dumped Stone as, although their support is a little better than Dell, IME Dell kit lasts longer. We have Dell kit which is 10 years old and still working. Any Stones over 4-5 years old develop lots of niggly faults. Dell driver and management is infinitely better than Stone.
Thinking about it I know I said Stone support is good we did have a batch of 100 Stones which wouldn't always recognise the keyboard. Stones answer; for me to update every BIOS myself, which didn't actually fix the problem. That alone put me off them.
12th October 2012, 02:24 PM #39
Thats more likely the components chosen rather then stone themselves being at fault. I always specified everything including mobo etc so that its not going to end up with a gigbyte one for example!
Originally Posted by j17sparky
12th October 2012, 02:32 PM #40
But that is Stones fault. They should choose better components, Dell do. When I go out to tender I specify a minimum spec and that's it. It's not up to me to choose the exact model of mobo, HD, RAM, etc. AFAIK if I did do that for Stone then I would be breaking purchasing rules as my spec would not be "like for like" between the 3+ bidders.
Originally Posted by glennda
Forgot to mention, Dell are actually cheaper than Stone most of the time when using a premier account.
Last edited by j17sparky; 12th October 2012 at 02:36 PM.
13th October 2012, 06:46 PM #41
Require new PCs
To be fair the Stone sales people aren't' numb ties, they know what they are on about. Plus I do not think I have ever had a call from them out of the blue that I didn't want. So that isn't really a true reflection of them I don't think.
Thanks to Edu-IT from:
Chris_ (14th October 2012)
14th October 2012, 02:55 PM #42
Stone have various price lists available which are good for a rough guide then you can phone up and say you'd like so many certain PCs with extra memory, no DVD drives etc.. their prices always seem very competitive first time round for me and they're always very quick if you ask them to make amendments to quotes (i.e. larger screens, faster HDD's).
Originally Posted by tmcd35
And as @Edu-IT says, I've never had a phone call from Stone
13th November 2012, 05:23 PM #43
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The website seems useless for Dell schools though to get prices and product info. Do you just go straight to phoning them?
Originally Posted by j17sparky
13th November 2012, 05:32 PM #44
? Dells site? I just go on the premier site. All product info is there with a nice configurator doodah. In fact I wish all PC manufacturers would follow dells lead.
Originally Posted by pmdc199
13th November 2012, 05:35 PM #45
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I must be being dumb where is that?
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