Project Ideas

Dos_Box · 18-07-2005, 09:56 AM

I think that as a tool a complete user management interface seperate from Microsofts awkward and at times bloody useless server GUI would be welcome. A list of features should (or might) include:

Bulk user creation, with the option of setting up usernames with a pupil identification context such as 05Nuser for a user called New User who joined the school in 2005. Several other options could also be integrated such as teachers initials for their usernames. Users should be impoterd from primarily CSV files and optionally from Excel or Access.

Bulk Group management. This would allow admins to move, join or prune users from groups en-mass.

User Backup. Perform a backup of the LDAP users database and allow for user restoration. This could be useful for sooooo many reasons.

I have no idea which language should be used, but such a project has to be worthwhile.

tarquel · 18-07-2005, 10:05 AM

Indeed DB

(you been looking at my user naming convention? lol)

I "dabble" with Visual Basic 6 Pro to make a (crappy) front end for my CD I make up.

I really need to knuckle down with it lol

But really dont know what programming lang we should use - a combo of a few maybe performing different tasks - one for gui (VB6), one for scripts (batch or vbs), etc.

Does that make sense? *wishes he'd kept programming as a kid*

Cheers
Nath

RobC · 18-07-2005, 10:52 AM

Before we all get into which language we think it should be in, should we not check which languages we can all code in? No sense settling on something like C# if no-one can code in it...

Personally I can code in basic HTML and some (extremely) basic VB script/VBA and that's about it!

woody · 18-07-2005, 11:32 AM

Just the ability to create users from a csv and put them into groups/ou would be fantastic. My gps do the rest, ie create user folder and link it to my documents.

I rant again, this SHOULD be part of the microsoft server OS. Have you seen that advert on telly from microsoft going on about it's the best thing in education since sliced bread. What a load of rubbish. About the only thing they've done for education was MS encarta. But server/desktop software? They should take a lesson from Apple's macmanager.

Rant over and sorry for being slightly off-topic

StewartKnight · 18-07-2005, 12:00 PM

I can code in VME, but since none of you will have heard of it (which is a shame as its' so good (for a mainframe language)), I can code a little in VB6 &.net and come on, who can't use HTML. Now if I could just hone my skills on JavaScript and actionscript in Flash......

russdev · 18-07-2005, 01:13 PM

ok vb 6 know a little in vb.net awaiting latest beta version of .net studio to play with that when it comes..

But at end of day willing to learn gives me an excuse to learn now programming langauge ( one of my objectives this year)..

Russ

tarquel · 18-07-2005, 03:59 PM

Looks like VB6 becoming a clear winner here lol

Should we put a Poll on the thread for this - to choose which lang?

Nath.

russdev · 18-07-2005, 06:40 PM

anymore suggestions...

Russ

Ric_ · 18-07-2005, 10:44 PM

VB .NET would be better than 6 wouldn't it, since MS don't want you using anything less now?

VB .NET is something I know a little of and am willing to learn more but...

russdev · 19-07-2005, 06:00 AM

same boat as ric on vb.net but as said would force me to learn...

Russ

ChrisH · 22-07-2005, 02:35 PM

I will be off now for the last 2 weeks of our school holiday and have ordered a vb.net book and the software so I'm going to have a bash and try and transfer over my VB script skills into some proper VB skills and learn alot along the way no doubt!!!

StewartKnight · 22-07-2005, 04:12 PM

The only thing you're going to learn is, if you don't do it the Micro$haft way, then it's the highway!!!

russdev · 22-07-2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewartKnight

The only thing you're going to learn is, if you don't do it the Micro$haft way, then it's the highway!!!

all programming language have upside and downside just as c, cobol, ruby, php and vb all have problems and all have good points.

But what it comes down to is two things if people use it then you should learn it...

At end of day not going to hurt you knowing a anothier language there is a school of thought that every developer should learn at least one new langauge each year...

Anyway back on topic what will do on monday is tally up what people have said and most popular lang wins....

Russ

ChrisH · 25-07-2005, 10:11 AM

Set up a poll maybe ?

russdev · 26-07-2005, 04:44 PM

@chrisH it has been done start voting....

Also i suspect for who ever asked that we will release it as opensource....

Also @stewart is vme releated to old opetating systemof the same name

Russ

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18-07-2005, 09:56 AM	#16
Dos_Box Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 3,714 Thanks: 7 Thanked 132 Times in 61 Posts Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 41	Re: Project Ideas I think that as a tool a complete user management interface seperate from Microsofts awkward and at times bloody useless server GUI would be welcome. A list of features should (or might) include: Bulk user creation, with the option of setting up usernames with a pupil identification context such as 05Nuser for a user called New User who joined the school in 2005. Several other options could also be integrated such as teachers initials for their usernames. Users should be impoterd from primarily CSV files and optionally from Excel or Access. Bulk Group management. This would allow admins to move, join or prune users from groups en-mass. User Backup. Perform a backup of the LDAP users database and allow for user restoration. This could be useful for sooooo many reasons. I have no idea which language should be used, but such a project has to be worthwhile.

18-07-2005, 10:05 AM	#17
tarquel Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Powys, Mid-Wales, UK Posts: 1,648 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: Project Ideas Indeed DB (you been looking at my user naming convention? lol) I "dabble" with Visual Basic 6 Pro to make a (crappy) front end for my CD I make up. I really need to knuckle down with it lol But really dont know what programming lang we should use - a combo of a few maybe performing different tasks - one for gui (VB6), one for scripts (batch or vbs), etc. Does that make sense? wishes he'd kept programming as a kid Cheers Nath

18-07-2005, 10:52 AM	#18
RobC Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Elgin, Scotland Posts: 365 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 8	Re: Project Ideas Before we all get into which language we think it should be in, should we not check which languages we can all code in? No sense settling on something like C# if no-one can code in it... Personally I can code in basic HTML and some (extremely) basic VB script/VBA and that's about it!

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18-07-2005, 11:32 AM	#19
woody Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, Cumbria Posts: 524 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Project Ideas Just the ability to create users from a csv and put them into groups/ou would be fantastic. My gps do the rest, ie create user folder and link it to my documents. I rant again, this SHOULD be part of the microsoft server OS. Have you seen that advert on telly from microsoft going on about it's the best thing in education since sliced bread. What a load of rubbish. About the only thing they've done for education was MS encarta. But server/desktop software? They should take a lesson from Apple's macmanager. Rant over and sorry for being slightly off-topic

18-07-2005, 12:00 PM	#20
StewartKnight Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,437 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Rep Power: 13	Re: Project Ideas I can code in VME, but since none of you will have heard of it (which is a shame as its' so good (for a mainframe language)), I can code a little in VB6 &.net and come on, who can't use HTML. Now if I could just hone my skills on JavaScript and actionscript in Flash......

18-07-2005, 01:13 PM	#21
russdev Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 5,225 Thanks: 34 Thanked 85 Times in 60 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Project Ideas ok vb 6 know a little in vb.net awaiting latest beta version of .net studio to play with that when it comes.. But at end of day willing to learn gives me an excuse to learn now programming langauge ( one of my objectives this year).. Russ

18-07-2005, 03:59 PM	#22
tarquel Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Powys, Mid-Wales, UK Posts: 1,648 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: Project Ideas Looks like VB6 becoming a clear winner here lol Should we put a Poll on the thread for this - to choose which lang? Nath.

18-07-2005, 06:40 PM	#23
russdev Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 5,225 Thanks: 34 Thanked 85 Times in 60 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Project Ideas anymore suggestions... Russ

18-07-2005, 10:44 PM	#24
Ric_ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lancashire Posts: 5,582 Thanks: 30 Thanked 152 Times in 133 Posts Rep Power: 44	Re: Project Ideas VB .NET would be better than 6 wouldn't it, since MS don't want you using anything less now? VB .NET is something I know a little of and am willing to learn more but...

19-07-2005, 06:00 AM	#25
russdev Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 5,225 Thanks: 34 Thanked 85 Times in 60 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Project Ideas same boat as ric on vb.net but as said would force me to learn... Russ

22-07-2005, 02:35 PM	#26
ChrisH Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Lancs Posts: 3,987 Thanks: 3 Thanked 44 Times in 38 Posts Rep Power: 22	Re: Project Ideas I will be off now for the last 2 weeks of our school holiday and have ordered a vb.net book and the software so I'm going to have a bash and try and transfer over my VB script skills into some proper VB skills and learn alot along the way no doubt!!!

22-07-2005, 04:12 PM	#27
StewartKnight Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,437 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Rep Power: 13	Re: Project Ideas The only thing you're going to learn is, if you don't do it the Micro$haft way, then it's the highway!!!

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25-07-2005, 10:11 AM	#29
ChrisH Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Lancs Posts: 3,987 Thanks: 3 Thanked 44 Times in 38 Posts Rep Power: 22	Re: Project Ideas Set up a poll maybe ?

26-07-2005, 04:44 PM	#30
russdev Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 5,225 Thanks: 34 Thanked 85 Times in 60 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Project Ideas @chrisH it has been done start voting.... Also i suspect for who ever asked that we will release it as opensource.... Also @stewart is vme releated to old opetating systemof the same name Russ