garethedmondson (27th January 2010)
I don't remember the Sophos incident you refer to but I do recall a guy from Sophos replying to a Sophos is cr@p post giving us his email address and offering personal assistance. He did provide me with a load of pointers to try and get the management console working.
garethedmondson (27th January 2010)
We have asked if there is a way to automate the functionality of producing a pm that is sent to a member to explain when an edit has been made, at the moment these are 2 seperate procedures. After an edit has been made we then have to manually initiate the PM process.
Oh well. I / and Edugeek members did try.
laserblazer (27th January 2010)
'First and foremost, EduGeek.net is a technical community, created as a place for those lonely people in schools that often struggle to find solutions to problems that are only found in schools.'
That's me.On my own a lot of the time grateful that there is somewhere I can go to for likeminded people to listen to and occassionaly ask for help. I don't post very much as there are some people out there with far superior technical knowledge to me but have added to some posts when I thought I might be of some help.
I like edugeek because I feel a part of it and when you are sitting surrounded by people who glaze over when you explain what you are doing it's nice to know that someone somewhere will listen.
hope that made some sort of sense
I agree, I'm a member of a US based video forum and it's amazing the number of suppliers/manufacturers that get personally involved. It gives you a warm feeling.
Yes there are problems with posts/threads/mods/actions etc LIKE any organisation but on the whole we try help as much as we can and we are trying to improve, remember edugeek is growing very fast and like anything we have growing pains. Also to assume each time a thread is removed/edited and you personally/publically told why is because a company told us to is silly to say the least. You do NOT know all the facts that go on behind the scenes and generally when your not told there is a GOOD reason. I am not repeating myself again from when you last made similar posts but should we get members sacked by not removing the threads etc?!?! and we do stand up to companies btw, you would know this if you were a mod but we cant easily publically state all the reasons why things are done.
But yeh in some areas yes more information should be given but to take a slant against us being all about the money is harsh to say the least and uncalled for. Yes we make money now, accept that. Please PM me examples of how we are only about the money and how we dont invest huge amounts of personal time into the site...
Everyone wants a free ride it appears, you ironically boasted to me about how you were going to block all edugeek ad's as you felt you didnt want to support us, we could have banned you then as you technically have no direct $ value. I could write some scripts to detect attempts to block ad's and lock you out of the site but we dont...
I have seen a few of these threads come up as time went on and as we got bigger and bigger and all I see is needless jelousy and its usually unsubstatiated *feelings* about how we only grab the money so I am calling those who say we are money grabbers to please pm me examples how when we spend large amounts of cash to offer things for free (unlike all our competitors) we are just in it for the money. Hell this year we are trying to have more conferences and events then ever before but I dont think we should bother now.
Ohh how I feel valued now as a money grabber....
Please dont feel I *just* targeted you FN as this more for all users that see us in this light as well and rather then repeating myself with many quotes etc I thought I would try to answer the points there.
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Without wishing to comment on individual post, I must admit I am surprised whenever the money topic surfaces. EG could have sold out a while ago and as far as I can see a lot of money is directed back to the good of the membership. I have no idea how expensive BETT and conferences are but I bet the are bloody expensive to run. Money that the owners of lesser sites would stick in their pocket
Also, notice how you don't get any spam from an edugeek sign up?
imagine what companies would pay for a database of purely technical decision makers' email adresses
I never understand why money is bought up in these things. It's non of our business really as we dont have to pay to use this brilliant community!
@ZeroHour and FN-GM:
I don't agree with the comment regarding finances. I'm happy and somewhat proud that this site makes money while providing a valuable resource for me and many others. Hell, I'd even pay a subscription (see the supporter tag under my member name!)
What I do agree with is the devalued status of members.
I've only been here a relatively short amount of time compared to some of you (registered in 2005), but I've noticed a huge sway in how members are treated - both by other members and to a certain extent Mods and Admins. As I commented on Page 1, it's now apparent that this site is "yours" rather than "ours".....
There shouldn't be such clear divisions between God/Admin/Mod and Supporter/Member - we should work for eachother.
As quite a new member i obviously cant comment on time before i joined, but i havent felt this site is about money making at all.
Ive generally felt very welcome and even knowing not as knowledgeable as most members i still feel comfortable adding to a post.
My point is it does very much feel like a great community to be a part of.
Just my view anyway.
To clarify what sophos incident was.
Many moons ago a young member of staff managed to convince a young lawyer that they should send some stop notices to the 'geek' over some threads. Anyway once the bosses found out they played hell with said staff and withdrew the action. Maybe something to do with a Reg story.
I still remember phone call from Graham at Sophos i was replying to an email over matter to rest of admins when call came through.
Now I don't usually enter in to these threads as I usually have better things to do but I for one must say that I am quite happy with EduGeek and if they do some money making initiatives to keep it going and thrive..Great, could not think of how I would survive in this job without you guys. Mods are necessary in forums to keep things sane as some people just don't know the line not to cross these days (I know as being a mod on another forum), if people are sensible we should not know they are there and this very thread would not have been necessary in the first place! If any of this post is just a replication of other views in this thread...sorry, but I just don't have the time to read them all. Thats my two peneth anyway (two pennies..suppose that dates me a bit!)
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