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    Please help us with this.

    This is a piece of software currently being worked on that we have been asked by Wagumo to get involved with. It is currently called Bamboo (as a working title), and is a search engine. Primarily it is a search engine which utilises other search engines and delivers the results in a rather nice Silverlight interface. It currently offers you the ability to annotate searches and save them as PDFs, as well as link to videos, pictures etc. Anyway, the link is here:

    Bamboo Link

    And the login is:

    opobyt@wagumo.com

    uplwgj@wagumo.com

    Password: demo

    What we need from you is feedback. What features would you like to see, what does it currently not do, and more importantly a name!
    Ric and I spent last night in a rather nice meeting with David and Justin from Wagumo thinking up ideas to add to it and came up with these (remembering that all ideas must have an educational direction):

    1. The ability to weed out irrelevant sites and articles and save searches so they can be given to pupils. This way teachers know that the searches contain all of the information the pupils require.

    2. Enforce safe searches.

    3. Have a search strings box so staff and pupils can learn to search correctly and insert strings easily with a definition of each command visible next to each.

    4. Develop a repository of searches so that subjects can have lots of information readily available.

    5. Plug into Espresso, Knowledge Box, Moodle and Pathe News etc so that locally (within the school) held content can be scanned too.

    6. A free (lite) version

    Anyway, it's over to you now. We want to know what you think, how it can be improved, and most importantly, what would your school be willing to pay for it if it had the features you wanted included. This could either be as an annual cost (small) or a one off (larger). We had discussed the pricing having 2 levels to accommodate primary and secondary schools, but this price would be site wide and allow pupils to use it at home too.

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    link doesnt work for me

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    Oh, I forgot. You will need Silverlight installed to use it!

    The Official Microsoft Silverlight Site

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    Quote Originally Posted by apoth0r View Post
    link doesnt work for me
    The link is good. What is the error?

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    Ok who searched for big and bouncy?

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    Heh, As I said, safe searches will be enforced in later revisions!

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    maybe link it in to the clients filtering system? so results from www.suspectwebsite.com dont get displayed as results if they filter that site in school

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    Ok who searched for big and bouncy?
    It was a test! The filter caught it

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    well thats very swish looking

    although i do wonder what Adam Internet has to do with edugeek

    I like the anotate feature too, that was a good idea

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    Surely somebody thinks that it would be useful in a school environment... and has an opinion on how much it should cost?

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    although i do wonder what Adam Internet has to do with edugeek
    Eh? Who?

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    We really need your comments and suggestions guys. remember, what you currently see is a base to be built on. If you want a feature in there please let us know. And as Ric said, please let us know what you would think something like this would be worth to your school if it had the features you required.

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    Probably being stupid but what's the point? I'm sure the flakiness is down to it being a test platform (just tried logging in 3 times; only 1 worked. I've made a few searches; only 2 worked and I'd have got better results using just one search engine!)

    Not sure if it's configurable, but the small box is a real pain - if you type more than 2 words they scroll out of site so you can't see what you've typed.

    Started writing this about 10 minutes ago and stopped because I couldn't get to the web site - I still can't. Don't know if this is because the test server is overloaded or if it's just fallen over.

    Just re-reading your original notes, why would you want to give a saved search to pupils? Surely you want to teach pupils how to search??

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    I'm surprised you are having problems! Are you using Sliverlight 1 or 2?. It's been workign flawlessly for me for days now and still is. The point of begin able to save searches is mainly for primary school pupils where they can search through a predefined search to gather the information they need. For example, history lessons are not lessons in searching the web, but id you can save, say 100 pages on the Tudors and have your pupils search those for information you know is there they will find more than spending 3 times as long trying to filter the information themselves.

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    @srochford: You critisisms are exactly the type of thing we are after.

    What I would envisage the product being used for is as a tool for teaching searches. A feature to be written in is the ability to save a search and allow the students to follow the same search the teacher has previously - basically putting 'dead ends' in the route when the results start to become irrelevant.

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